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#95 – In My Thirties Most of My Student Loans Disappeared
This week, we're talking about student loans and what it really cost to do what everybody told millennials to do: the $99,900 Jocelyn owed on one accounting degree, the for-profit college behind most of it, the class action lawsuit, the borrower defense claim, and the day her balance dropped to $34,000. We also get into the hairstylist who told clients to stop texting when they arrive, why tips are optional, whether doctors should make more than teachers, and the Long's versus Hart's donut update Indianapolis has been asking for. Whether you're navigating student loan debt you signed for before you understood it, customer service that expects you to serve it, or a city that will pray for you over a donut opinion, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.
Show Notes• A coworker who thought bugaboo was a term of endearment
• The hairstylist who told clients to stop texting when they arrive, and why Jade says the text is how you find out she is not ready
• $100 an hour, no seating area, and what stylists think customers owe them
• Jocelyn, a prescription, and a pharmacist with an attitude
• Tips are optional: Jocelyn tips well and says it anyway
• Teachers deserve more money, and teaching has always been honest about the pay
• Should doctors make more than teachers? Jade says they go to school longer, Jocelyn says the teachers are the ones teaching them
• The no zero grading policy and what a B used to be
• How college got pushed on millennials starting in elementary school, and why community college got treated like a punishment
• Ten years to graduate, every college we went to, and the Ivy Tech rule
• Jocelyn's student loan story: $99,900 on an accounting degree, two years at DeVry, the refund checks, the class action lawsuit she found on TikTok, the borrower defense claim on the federal student aid site, and the discharge that took her down to $34,000
• Only in the USA: a viral video we are not sure is real
• The Indiana fertility doctor documentary and the part that scares Jocelyn most
• The Hart's update: Jade still has not been
• Indiana staples: King Ribs, Long's, peanut butter sandwiches with chili, fries in a Frosty, bacon donuts, and the tenderloin bigger than your head
• Uranus, Indiana is real and known for fudge
• The donut comments: Tim's, Sweet Shop, Pana, the man who wants his $2.50 back, and the Last Supper comment
• What happened when Jocelyn went back to Hart's
• Sippers vs gulpers
• Elmo vs Barney, the Big Comfy Couch, cable but not new shoes, and the radio that never turned off
Timestamps:00:00 Bugaboo At Work
03:06 Hair Appointment Rants
09:37 Pharmacy Customer Service
12:39 Tipping And Job Choices
13:46 Teachers Pay Debate
19:15 College Scam Talk
24:24 Student Loan Horror Story
27:05 Borrower Defense Win
31:08 Unpredictable Friend Energy
33:40 Only In The USA Story
38:55 Hart's Update And Indiana Staples
41:40 King Ribs Debate
42:24 Midwest Food Combos
44:32 Tenderloin Madness
46:51 Indiana Is Foolish
49:57 Donut Shop Recs
51:17 Longs Comment Wars
59:30 Hartz Love Story
01:03:14 Weight And Hormones
01:06:43 Wrap Up And Plugs
01:07:45 Elmo Vs Barney
01:10:46 Grandma TV Memories
01:13:31 Final Goodbye
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96. #96 – My ADHD Medication Had Me Flipping Out at Work
52:00||Season 2026, Ep. 96This week, we’re talking about adult ADHD and what nobody tells you after the diagnosis: the medication that had Jocelyn flipping out on people at her old job, the apology she went back and gave, and still meant, and the ADHD coaching her psychiatrist just told her exists. We also get into the birthday sail on Lake Michigan that Jocelyn paid for and he could not keep down, Gen Z telling millennials to retire, Jade’s No Child Left Behind soapbox, the follow-up to the Miami sister story, and why the word of the week is accountability. Whether you’re navigating ADHD as a grown woman, a job you already apologized to, or family that mistakes you for free childcare, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.Acast Show NotesJocelyn’s psychiatrist follow-up, and the ADHD coaching she did not know existedWhat are adults who find out they have ADHD supposed to do, just cope on their own?Why sleep makes ADHD worse and ADHD makes sleep worseThe medication that had Jocelyn flipping out on people at her old job, the apology she went back and gave, and why she still meant itJocelyn’s birthday trip to Michigan, and the resort full of retireesJocelyn hates water and the beach, and paid for a sunset sail on Lake Michigan for his birthday anywaySeasick in the middle of the lake, the mints, the bag, and the eye patch pictures Jocelyn sent JadeJade’s verdict: you terrible, and I would have done the same thingTwo trainees and a fire drill on a boat somebody paid forWhy Jocelyn is convinced a cruise would be the end of her, and why Jade is going on one anywayLakes, oceans, and the California flight with grandma that started itThe 14 hour flight to South Korea Jocelyn is going to take anywayGen Z is rage baiting millennials, and Jocelyn commented twiceJocelyn thought she was Gen X because of a Spice Girls songJade is 35 and just got the management job, so what you mean retire?Outperform us and take it, and why every millennial would retire tomorrow if she couldJade’s soapbox: No Child Left Behind, no consequences, no winnersAccountability, and what the Miami sister story looks like two weeks laterJocelyn on family that manipulates you: that is just somebody you share DNA withWhy Jocelyn was the family babysitter, and what she would do if her brother pulled thisThe key word of the episode is accountabilityTeach You a Lesson on Netflix, recommended for the second time, subtitles onlyIs childfree an offensive term? Childfree vs childlessHomeless vs unhoused, and who decidedIt’s A Girl’s Perspective, not A Girl’s FactsY’all corrected us on Aladdin, and one of us still says the Genie did too muchTikTok hit 6,000, the Miami clip passed 400,000, and thank you for showing upTimestamps:00:00 Medication Switch Talk02:31 Behavioral Coaching Referral04:59 Doctors Who Explain05:49 Concerta Dose Fallout07:28 Birthday Trip Michigan10:04 Sailing Trip Disaster13:55 Pirate Pics Debate16:34 Boat Safety Complaints18:33 Irrational Water Fears23:48 Gen Z Rage Bait Theory26:17 Retirement Rage Bait27:08 Outperform Us Then28:36 No Child Left Behind29:22 Babysitting Gone Wrong30:35 Accountability Over Family35:12 Teach You a Lesson40:11 Childfree Term Debate42:06 Unhoused vs Homeless45:04 Aladdin Genie Argument49:41 Growth and FarewellTwo lives. Two perspectives. One unfiltered conversation.#AGirlsPerspective #ADHD #VibeTribe
94. #94 – In My Thirties I Stopped Giving the Salon My Saturdays
01:07:22||Season 2026, Ep. 94This week, we're talking about Black hair and everything we went through to have it: the relaxer that burned and the beautician who said tell me when you feel it, the salon Saturdays that took the whole day, the big chop, sisterlocks, and the little boy who thinks moms are supposed to have hair. Also on the table: screenshot everything your boss tells you, the report nobody mentioned until it was due, the genie being a bad influence on Aladdin, and a photographer who says she loves our people but can't show you one of us. Whether you're still giving the salon your Saturdays, wondering if your loctician should have this much say, or just tired of explaining your hair to people who don't have to deal with it, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.Acast Show Notes• Two weeks without staff, a report nobody mentioned until it was due, and the whole commercial book of business• Dropping the ball on purpose versus owning the part that was actually yours• Screenshot everything: dated, filed by person, meeting minutes in a separate folder• When Jade leaves a job, the spirit already told her• Everybody Hates Chris, the Chris Rock debate, and whether anybody remembers he was the zebra in Madagascar• Happy Feet, the Prince soundtrack, and Robin Williams• Nothing tops Aladdin, and the genie was a bad influence• Vincenzo and villains who are geniuses until it's time to be geniuses• Outdoor shoots available weekdays only, closed Monday through Thursday• The Black photographer with five photos on her page and not one Black face• Show me you know how to light us, and why Instagram is not a portfolio• Dyeing it brown for fall, and the loctician who will not bleach Jocelyn's hair• Your hair belongs to me now: why Jocelyn handed her head over to her loctician• Jade's son said moms are supposed to have hair. Jade said it's in the trash• The perm burn Jocelyn liked, the Malcolm X scene, and the perm Jade's father did that left a bald patch• Why Jade cut it all off: the salon Saturday that never ended• The Just For Me commercial was a silk press, and Jam, Sofree, and Blue Magic• No bedroom set at 39, the oil spot on the wall, and hiring somebody to clean• The diced pepperoni incident and "different strokes for different folks"• I drink what the sign say, and PICU is not a thingTimestamps:00:00 A week on the water01:00 Two weeks without my staff02:00 PTO means prepare the others03:00 The report nobody mentioned until it was due05:15 The whole commercial book of business06:30 Extending the vacation08:00 Dropping the ball on purpose10:00 The mistake that wasn't all mine13:30 Screenshot everything16:30 When I leave, I have a reason17:00 Everybody Hates Chris, and so does one of us18:30 Who was the zebra in Madagascar20:45 Happy Feet and the Prince soundtrack22:30 Nothing tops Aladdin23:30 The genie was a bad influence24:30 Vincenzo and villains who forget to be smart31:30 Did Happy Feet have a villain32:30 Outdoor shoots, weekdays only, closed Monday through Thursday36:00 A photographer with no website36:45 Five photos, all white women39:00 Show me you know how to light us39:30 Instagram is not a portfolio41:30 Dyeing it brown for fall42:15 Your hair belongs to me now43:30 Why Jocelyn won't cut hers44:30 Moms are supposed to have hair45:30 I liked the burn46:45 The Malcolm X scene47:30 The perm my father did49:30 Sick of my whole Saturday being gone50:15 The Just For Me commercial was a silk press51:15 Jam, Sofree, and Blue Magic52:30 No bedroom set at 3953:45 The oil spot on the wall55:00 The only thing I wanna do is sit down56:30 Merch and the Carolina blue hoodie59:00 The diced pepperoni incident1:04:00 I drink what the sign say1:04:45 PICU is not a thing1:06:15 Wrap upTwo lives. Two perspectives. One unfiltered conversation.#AGirlsPerspective #VibeTribe #BlackHair
93. #93 – Nobody Warned Me About 35
01:11:31||Season 2026, Ep. 93This week, we’re talking about what 35 does to a woman’s body and mind and why nobody warns you: ADHD symptoms that showed up out of nowhere, menopause creeping into the 40s, and doctors who say nah you good while your friend is finding out on TikTok what her old OBGYN never told her. Whether you’re wondering if it’s ADHD or menopause, fighting a doctor for a decision about your own body, or just trying to figure out why everything got harder after 35, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.Acast Show Notes• Jocelyn asked her psychiatrist if ADHD can just show up, and what she said about women and menopause• Jade’s theory: at 35 everything goes downhill, wisdom teeth included• Why menopause is the biggest life event women never talk about• Hysterectomy does not automatically mean menopause, and why “total” does not mean what you think• Menopause is showing up in the 40s and doctors are still saying nah you good• The TikTok about ten years on a birth control shot and the OBGYN who never said a word• Why Jocelyn wants a woman handling her reproductive health• The doctor who told Jade she was infertile and never put it in her chart• Why paying off your car early can drop your credit score 30 points• A lioness and her cub loose in Indiana, and where is the daddy• The sister who asked for three hours of babysitting and flew to Miami• Low maintenance vs high maintenance vs low investment friendships, defined• The high school friend who showed up at a boyfriend’s house over two missed calls• The one question to ask at the start of every relationship• Art After Dark, release forms, and who actually shows up for you• Hot yoga, guided meditation, and why counting to ten is not clearing your mind• The journals Jocelyn found and the referral she still has not called• Ten years of asking for a hysterectomy and why autonomy is supposed to be the rule• Nobody to take care of but me, and Jade’s future orange catTimestamps: 00:00 Back on the meds 01:30 Three credit cards paid off 02:00 The lender said don’t pay off the car 02:50 The Trax and the 30 points 04:00 Can ADHD just show up? The psychiatrist answers 05:30 At 35 everything goes downhill 06:30 Why nobody talks about menopause 07:30 Hysterectomy does not mean menopause 09:00 The anesthesiologist and the word “total” 10:30 Menopause is creeping into the 40s 11:00 Doctors saying nah you good 12:00 Male OBGYNs and life experience 12:45 The doctor said infertile and never wrote it down 13:30 A lioness is loose in Indiana 16:30 Can a lion break down a door 17:45 The saline recall 21:15 Story time: watch my sister’s kids for a couple hours 22:30 Miami owes me nothing 24:30 Who was wrong 26:30 Babysitting the whole family 29:30 Anybody can get cut 31:15 Low maintenance, high maintenance, low investment 32:30 The TikTok that started it 35:00 The friend who showed up at the boyfriend’s house 36:30 What do you want from this relationship 40:30 Art After Dark 42:45 Do you still need a release form 47:00 Who actually showed up 50:30 The $1,000 owl painting 51:30 Dot painting and yet another hobby 52:15 Hot yoga 53:30 Guided meditation has too many steps 56:30 The journals 58:45 The referral nobody called 60:30 Just let me reschedule by text 61:45 Redoing the whole wardrobe 63:30 Why can’t women just choose a hysterectomy 67:00 Ten years of asking 68:15 Nobody to take care of but me 69:30 Jade wants an orange cat 70:30 Wrap up
92. #92 – My Money Got Standards in My Thirties
01:09:49||Season 2026, Ep. 92This week, we’re talking about money boundaries, adulting, and only paying people who actually show up, starting with the lawn crew that missed three appointments, quoted almost $1,000 to pull some weeds, and watched Jocelyn get her gloves and do it herself. Whether you’re tired of businesses that waste your time, deciding where supporting a business ends and overpaying begins, or just trying to make your money stretch in a year that keeps testing it, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.Acast Show Notes• The viral stylist story: 10 minutes late, an overheard phone call, and a TikTok post about the client• Why it was never about the 10 minutes: no communication, then an attitude on top• Licensed or nah, and why you should not be in customer service if you do not like customers• The $65 grass cuts, the no-show appointments, and the almost $1,000 weed removal quote• Supporting Black-owned businesses only when the business holds up its end• Jocelyn sprays the yard with her brother’s homemade weed concoction and pulls every weed herself• The audit that shrunk a $1,500 refund to $250 with no explanation given• The appointment that got canceled 30 minutes out• Jocelyn’s new Facebook friend: the troll who could not handle being agreed with• The micromanagement verdict: if I thought you could not do this job, I would not have hired you• IMs are not text messages and TV shows are not movies• The pamphlet situation and other words Jade refuses to say correctly• Facebook is for old people now, chain letters included• We hit 1,000 YouTube subscribers• Aging without the crisis, changed birthdays, and why September is still summerTimestamps: 00:00 Book bags and fighting for her life 00:40 Gary still has no power 03:45 The new wheel tax 05:30 The audit: $1,500 becomes $250 11:30 Canceled 30 minutes before the appointment 14:25 The barber hypothetical 15:50 The real story is on TikTok 18:00 The shampoo run excuse 20:20 Licensed or nah 22:15 $65 grass cuts and no-shows 27:00 The $1,000 weed quote 28:15 Jocelyn becomes the landscaper 30:05 Jocelyn’s new Facebook friend 39:30 Lazy management, according to a stranger 43:30 IMs are not text messages 45:55 TV shows are not movies 49:20 The pamphlet situation 51:55 Automate is not optimize 53:30 Jade said the word in class 54:30 Facebook is for old people now 57:50 We hit 1,000 subscribers 59:00 Aging without the crisis 61:00 Jocelyn changed her birthday 63:00 September is still summer 65:15 Flood watch and attic escape plans 67:00 The doorbell story 68:15 Wrap up
91. #91 – One Sentence Ended Our Six Year Friendship
01:13:29||Season 2026, Ep. 91This week, we’re talking about adult friendships and the art of saying no, the friend who called Jocelyn’s graduation a family thing after six years, and the trauma bonds that fall apart the minute your life starts improving. Whether you’re navigating friends who disappear when it is time to celebrate you, people pleasing that has you saying yes when your spirit says no, or that one person who leaves you drained every single time, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.Acast Show Notes• The viral graduation TikTok, the oversleep excuse, and Jade’s instant verdict• Jocelyn’s own graduation story and the friend of six years who called it a family thing• The HR sendoff: wishing people well in their future endeavors• Trauma bonds, better credit, and the friends who leave when you level up• Erykah Badu vibes, Gemini energy, and the eccentric phase that got too expensive• The Indiana nap shop and why the hate makes no sense• Do not invite me to the wedding if I never make the cookouts, girls nights, or coffee breaks• David Banner’s grand skipping entrance• Vibe Tribe shout outs and the Seoul2Screen reveal• The parasailing request and the version of Jocelyn that retired in 2018• The art of no, energy leeches, and pouring from an empty cup• The year of no and frozen credit cards• The mediocre nails incident• Jocelyn’s ADHD medication update and a mental health check inTimestamps: 00:00 Cappuccino or Americano, vetoed immediately 01:05 The graduation TikTok question 02:05 Jade’s instant verdict 03:20 The graduate posts her receipts 06:10 Jocelyn’s graduation and the family thing excuse 09:15 The HR sendoff 11:10 Trauma bonds and friends who leave when you level up 15:15 The cussing progress report 16:40 Erykah Badu vibes and peak Gemini behavior 20:55 Being eccentric is expensive 23:10 The Indiana nap shop 28:10 Do not invite me to the wedding if I miss the cookouts 29:55 Our algorithms are showing out 33:20 David Banner’s grand entrance 37:20 Vibe Tribe shout outs 39:50 K-dramas and the Seoul2Screen reveal 46:40 The parasailing story 49:20 Born selfish and thankful for it 51:20 The art of no 52:50 Energy leeches, the true definition 54:55 No to Jamaica, yes to bingo 56:30 You cannot pour from an empty cup 59:00 The year of no and frozen credit cards 60:55 Why is every logo gray now 63:45 The mediocre nails incident 67:05 The ADHD update 70:20 Wrap up and where to find us
90. #90 – My Best Friend Knew I Was Lying to Myself
51:15||Season 2026, Ep. 90This week, we’re talking about the honest side of adult friendship, the $2,000 marketing class Jocelyn registered for and quit in two days, and the viral braids video that has everybody arguing about kids and colored hair. Jade knew the class was never happening and said nothing, which raises the real question, when do you tell your friend the truth and when do you let them live? Whether you’re navigating friendships that know you a little too well, ADHD impulse decisions, or the group chat debates about how kids should dress, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.Acast Show Notes• The $2,000 marketing class Jocelyn registered for and unregistered from in two days• Why Jade kept her opinion to herself, and whether that makes them shady• Getting the Vibe Tribe to comment, share, and show up• Spider-Man review with spoilers, underwhelming villains included• MySpace is coming back, the top eight hot seat, and whether we even like ten people• American Idol vs America’s Best Dance Crew, and the Secret Circle cancellation we are still not over• The viral braider video, blonde braids at eight, and where the line actually is with kids, hair, outfits, and makeup• PSA, always take your receipt, the 81 cent tip story• Long’s vs Hart’s, the Indy donut debate• Art After Dark, Saturday August 22, Gallery 317, downtown IndyMerch reminder, the cup is not dishwasher safeTimestamps: 00:00 What we been up to 02:00 The wireless mic rabbit hole, Jocelyn is about to be everywhere 04:15 The $2,000 marketing class, registered and unregistered in two days 06:20 Jade knew and said nothing. Does that make us shady 08:00 What we actually need from the Vibe Tribe 11:10 Spider-Man review, spoilers ahead, skip if you need to 21:20 MySpace is coming back and Jocelyn wants her credit 22:20 Who is in your top eight25:20 Jocelyn missed her calling as a Jabbawockee 25:55 American Idol vs America’s Best Dance Crew 26:40 Secret Circle deserved better 28:15 The braider video, How young is too young for colored hair 31:55 Where we actually draw the line with kids 37:05 PSA, always get your receipt, the scam you might not catch 40:30 The great Indy donut debate 43:30 Art After Dark, Jocelyn’s pieces, Saturday August 22 46:45 Merch check and the cup that is not dishwasher safe 48:00 Wrap up, leave us a review pleaseTwo lives. Two perspectives. One unfiltered conversation.#AGirlsPerspective #VibeTribe #AdultingPodcast
89. #89 – He's Secretly Ruining His Golden Child Brother's Life
59:57||Season 2026, Ep. 89This week, we're talking about golden child siblings, family favoritism, and a Reddit confession from a man who has spent years secretly ruining his older brother's life. Jocelyn and Jade get into why the resentment is really about the parents, the Whitney Houston slander that had Jocelyn ready to fight, and the K-dramas Wonderful World and The East Palace. Whether you're navigating sibling resentment, family drama, or you just need your weekly hangout with your friends, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it. New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.Show notes:• The golden child Reddit confession and Jocelyn's comment back• Family favoritism and who the resentment really belongs to• Jocelyn's brother, the actual golden child• No Whitney Houston slander on this internet• KevOnStage, notifications, and people projecting• Wonderful World and The East Palace, recapped and rated• JYP, J.Lo, Chaka Khan, and Jennifer Lewis• Tequila shots for episode 89• The electric blue hoodie dispute• Tag J. Brooks Boutique, we are manifesting a sponsor• Merch at agirlsperspective.comTimestamps:00:00 Welcome back and a SweetArt Fluid update02:04 Mexican Batman and vigilante justice04:04 Black cats and Zephyr's attitude05:45 KevOnStage and the notification police10:14 Letting your phone die on purpose12:57 K-drama haircuts and The Apartment Job16:00 JYP, the singing pastor18:45 J.Lo movies and marketing21:55 Chaka Khan appreciation23:00 No Whitney Houston slander allowed24:40 Jennifer Lewis is the blueprint26:26 The golden child Reddit confession31:57 Jocelyn's brother was the golden child35:20 K-drama villains who think they are victims36:41 The East Palace needs a trigger warning41:47 Tequila shots and two years of AGP43:00 Optimists, complaints, and electric bikes44:20 The electric blue hoodie dispute45:55 PayPal, scammers, and international shopping47:40 Help us get J. Brooks Boutique's attention49:29 Why millennials stopped taking pictures52:30 Jocelyn's next money making skill54:30 Guests we need on the show56:57 Merch, art, and goodbyes
88. #88 – Why I'm Done With One-Sided Friendships
01:29:44||Season 2026, Ep. 88This week, we're talking about one-sided friendships, adult loneliness, and the difference between a friend and an associate. Jocelyn shares the Reddit story that hit too close to home, the beer fest trip her whole friend group took without her, and the day she told them she was done doing all the reaching out. Jade brings the fire on workplace competition, gatekeeping coworkers, and why she will teach you everything she knows and still bet on herself. Plus a big announcement about the future of the show, straight from us to the Vibe Tribe first.Whether you're navigating friendship problems, corporate burnout, or figuring out who actually shows up for you, this episode will feel like sitting with two friends who truly get it.New episodes every Wednesday. Follow the podcast everywhere you listen.Show notes• The announcement: ads are coming to AGP, and Sweetheart Creations is the first sponsor• The merch is live: hats, cups, tees, and the hoodie both hosts claimed• The Reddit: friends who book trips without you• Jocelyn's beer fest story and the end of one-sided friendships• Friends vs associates, the kiki test• Workplace competition, gatekeeping, and raggedy managers• Jocelyn's confidence story, from low self-esteem to "I don't want your job"• The Osco pharmacy story and the job that almost didn't happen• Double lives and the other woman debate• Marriage at 69, separate bedrooms, and the nephews who get everything• Jocelyn's brother, the real MVP of homeownership• Retiring before 70, periodTimestamps:00:00 Catching up, nursing school and new job chaos02:30 A big announcement about the future of AGP06:30 The merch is live11:50 Jocelyn asked for a sign and got three20:20 The Reddit: friends who plan trips without you22:20 The beer fest story, the whole group went except Jocelyn24:30 "I don't owe you an explanation" is fighting words26:15 The loneliest year and why this podcast exists29:20 Done with one-sided friendships30:50 Friends vs associates, the kiki test34:40 ChatGPT is not your therapist38:00 Makeup, lashes, and no eyebrows41:00 Competing with yourself over things you don't even want46:30 Yes, you are in competition with your coworkers48:45 Gatekeeping at work and raggedy managers50:00 From low self-esteem to "I don't want your job"54:30 The Osco story, the job Jocelyn almost skipped1:00:30 ACT scores and test anxiety1:04:15 Fake it till you make it1:09:30 Double lives1:11:15 The other woman debate1:13:45 Jade tried the stay-at-home wife life1:15:15 Separate bedrooms and marrying at 691:19:30 Everything goes to the nephews1:22:00 Jocelyn's brother is the real MVP1:24:00 Retiring before 70, period1:26:45 Wrap-up, send this to a friend