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Curatorial Dreams

Season 3, Ep. 2

In this episode, Gus Casely Hayford and Julie Crooks discuss their transformative work with art institutions, the importance of rediscovering underrepresented artists, finding joy in serving the community, and much more!


Chapters

01:21 Julie Crooks' Background and Work at the Art Gallery of Ontario

03:27 Gus Casely Hayford's Background and Work at V&A East

11:00 Fostering Resilience

21:41 The Impact of the Black Lives Matter Movement

32:29 The Power of Younger Generations

33:00 Individual Contributions

35:54 Rediscovering Underrepresented Artists

37:52 Civic Duty and Public Service

38:49 Reflections on Historical Moments and Generational Shifts

42:44 The Power of Culture in Society

49:37 The 20th Century: Unfulfilled Promises

53:15 Musical Inspirations: Beyoncé and Steel Pulse


Guests: Gus Casely-Hayford & Julie Crooks

Hosts: Daniel McNeil and Anna Jane McIntyre

Executive Producer: Daniel McNeil

Producer: Toleen Touq

Associate Producer: Anna Jane McIntyre

Audio Engineer: Chancelor Maracle

Music: Marc Mac presents Visioneers, Ike's Mood I

Artwork: Anna Jane McIntyre


To find out more, please visit @blackstudiespodcast on Instagram


Next Time: Nantali Indongo and Del Cowie on Black Canadian Artistry

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