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Episode 17: Nick Durkin, Field CTO of Harness.io
Hello, and welcome to Tech Connects, Dice’s podcast where we dig into the topics on tech hiring, recruiting and careers that matter to you! I’m your host, Nick Kolakowski, and I’m going to talk to great guests every month about the current state of the tech careers world, including the tech job market, the hottest tech skills, what companies are doing to attract and retain technologists in a historically tight market, and much, much more.
Our next guest is Nick Durkin, field CTO of harness.io, where he’s responsible for the organization's worldwide field engineering team, post-sales engineering team, and a portion of product. Harness.io leverages artificial intelligence to streamline core DevOps processes, which gives him key insights into how automation is changing the nature of work for tech professionals everywhere. Let’s listen in as we talk about all things A.I., ChatGPT, and developers.
There’s been a lot of chatter lately about how A.I.-powered tools like ChatGPT can potentially impact software developers and other tech professionals. Some of this chatter is really negative, with developers fearing that chatbots will eventually take their jobs.
It’s fascinating to talk to Nick because he’s so positive about the effects of automation on software developers, especially their workflows. As he said, technology like this has the potential to eliminate some of the worst parts of your job.
As A.I. and chatbots become more sophisticated, it’s also important to keep in mind that machines can’t replicate human creativity and ingenuity. Even the best chatbot can’t make the same intuitive leaps as an experienced engineer when confronted with a particularly difficult challenge. If you want to truly future-proof your career, focus on skills like management, problem-solving, and strategizing.
That way, even if these A.I. tools gain the ability to execute on even more complex tasks, you’ll still prove vital when it comes to completing projects and moving your organizations forward. Plus, there’s always an upside: A.I. might free up more hours for you to focus on what really matters to you.
We’ll see you next time—and remember, Dice is your best resource to find the tech talent you need to fill your open roles, and for technologists, the best place to grow your tech career.
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53. Episode 53: Brandon Jeffs, Recruiting Expert and Director of People and Talent at TLDR
35:20||Season 1, Ep. 53For the latest episode of 'Tech Connects,' we’re talking to Brandon Jeffs, who’s the director of people and talent at TLDR, a newsletter collective with more than five million readers that covers startups, coding, tech, and so much more. He’s been a senior recruiter and talent partner at numerous firms, including the fintech unicorn Caribou, Prospectus Labs, and more. I wanted to chat with him about the current state of tech hiring, how recruiters can find effective talent, and understanding candidate motivations. Let’s listen in!Here are some quick takeaways from this talk with Brandon:First, Embrace Flexibility and Adaptability: The tech landscape is constantly evolving, with new technologies and challenges emerging regularly. Recruiters must be prepared to adapt their strategies and approaches to navigate these changes effectively. This includes being open to new recruiting methods, technologies, and approaches to attract and engage top talent.Second, Prioritize the Human Element: While technology can streamline many aspects of the hiring process, it's crucial to maintain a human-centered approach. Focus on building strong relationships with candidates, providing a positive and personalized experience, and ensuring that the human element remains central to the decision-making process.Third, Understand and Address Candidate Motivations: In today's competitive market, attracting and retaining top talent requires a deep understanding of candidate motivations. Go beyond traditional compensation and benefits to consider factors like company culture, values, work-life balance, and opportunities for growth and development. Tailor your recruiting efforts to appeal to the specific needs and preferences of your target candidates.Fourth, Focus on Building Strong Relationships: Cultivate strong relationships with potential candidates, both actively and passively. This includes building a strong professional network, attending industry events, and engaging with candidates on platforms like LinkedIn. Focus on building long-term relationships with potential candidates, even if they are not currently seeking a new role.We covered a lot more during the discussion, so please give it another listen if you missed anything. We’ll see you next time, and remember—Dice is your best resource to find the tech talent you need to fill your open roles, and for tech professionals, the best place to grow your tech career.52. Episode 52: Art Zeile on the New Dice Tech Salary Report
21:29||Season 1, Ep. 52On this latest episode of ‘Tech Connects,’ we’re talking with Art Zeile, CEO of DHI Group, the parent company of Dice, about the latest Dice Tech Salary Report. Every year, we survey thousands of tech professionals for the Report’s breakdown of tech industry salary, benefits, and much more.This is the 20th annual edition of the Tech Salary Report, and we’re taking this opportunity to analyze how tech compensation has evolved over the long term. Yes, overall tech salaries have risen steadily since 2005, reaching an average of $112,521 in 2024, but you need to take inflation into account: Today's average tech salary, when adjusted for purchasing power, is almost exactly what professionals earned in 2005 ($112,521 versus inflation-adjusted $112,350).This suggests that, despite periodic surges, compensation in tech overall has effectively plateaued over nearly two decades. For those tech professionals who want to earn massive compensation, it’s critical to stay current on the tech industry’s latest developments, and to focus on learning the latest and most in-demand skills (in our current era, that includes cloud engineering and artificial intelligence). We’re going to break that down—along with so much more—in our chat with Art.Art always has great insights into the tech industry. Here are some key takeaways from our chat:Boost Your Salary with In-Demand Skills: The report shows a significant salary increase for professionals with skills like AI, cloud computing, cybersecurity, etc. As we mentioned above, focus on learning these skills to close the salary gap and become more attractive to employers.Companies Need to Offer Competitive Compensation & Growth: Inflation and stagnant salaries are leading to dissatisfaction among tech professionals. Companies need to offer competitive compensation packages and opportunities for learning and career advancement to retain their talent.Leverage Internal Learning Resources: Many companies offer internal resources like online subscriptions and conferences to help employees develop new skills. Take advantage of these resources to stay up-to-date and increase your value.Explore AI and Prompt Engineering: Gaining knowledge of AI and prompt engineering is crucial for the future of tech careers. Start by learning the basics of AI and how it can be applied to your field.The Future of Work is Hybrid: While some companies might push for full-time in-office work, the trend suggests a hybrid model is more likely. Focus on finding a company that offers flexibility and a good work-life balance. We covered a lot more during the discussion, so please give it another listen if you missed anything. For even more information on compensation, benefits, and everything else that matters so much to tech professionals, check out the Dice Tech Salary Report!51. Episode 51: Paul DeBettignies on Tech Recruiting in 2025
36:46||Season 1, Ep. 51Hello, and welcome to Tech Connects, Dice’s podcast where we dig into the topics on tech hiring, recruiting and careers that matter to you! I’m your host, Nick Kolakowski, and I’m talking to great guests every month about the current state of the tech careers world, including the tech job market, the hottest tech skills, what companies are doing to attract and retain tech professionals in a historically tight market, and much, much more. Our guest today is Paul DeBettignies. He’s a tech recruiting veteran with over 20 years of experience, and he’s built teams for startups and huge companies alike, as well as crafted recruiting strategies for Fortune 500 clients. He’s a prolific blogger, author of the long-running "Minnesota Headhunter" blog, and a frequent speaker at local and national events, offering expertise on recruiting, HR, careers, and social media.In other words, he’s a great person to talk with about the current state of tech hiring as we enter the New Year. Let’s listen in!Here are some quick takeaways as you proceed on your own tech recruiting journey:First, don't procrastinate on hiring. Companies should start planning and preparing for their 2025 hiring needs now, rather than waiting until the last minute. Waiting too long can put you at a disadvantage and limit your options.Second, you can leverage a holiday Season for productive conversations. A holiday season can be an unexpected opportunity for productive conversations with potential candidates. People may be more receptive to calls during this time, as they may be taking time off and looking for distractions.Third, be mindful of regional differences in the job market. The job market can vary significantly by region. It's important to consider regional factors when planning your hiring strategy. For example, the Midwest may be slower to recover from economic downturns compared to the coasts.Fourth, embrace AI as a tool, not a replacement. AI can be a valuable tool for recruiters and hiring managers, but it should not be seen as a replacement for human interaction. It's important to strike a balance between automation and the human touch to ensure a positive candidate experience.There was a lot more in that discussion, of course, so give it another listen if you feel so inclined. Thank you for joining us—and remember, Dice is your best resource to find the tech talent you need to fill your open roles, and for technologists, the best place to grow your tech career.50. Episode 50: Nichole Foley, Senior Manager of Talent Acquisition, Commonwealth Fusion Systems
30:09||Season 1, Ep. 50Hello, and welcome to Tech Connects, Dice’s podcast where we dig into the topics on tech hiring, recruiting and careers that matter to you! I’m your host, Nick Kolakowski, and I’m talking to great guests every month about the current state of the tech careers world, including the tech job market, the hottest tech skills, what companies are doing to attract and retain tech professionals in a historically tight market, and much, much more. Our guest today is Nichole Foley, who’s the senior manager of talent acquisition for Commonwealth Fusion Systems, which is exploring the best ways to build clean fusion energy tech. Before that, she was a senior recruiting and people manager at Google, as well as a recruiter at other companies. That experience has given her incredible insight into recruiting and hiring as the tech industry heads into an uncertain but exciting 2025. Let’s listen in!Here are some quick takeaways from this chat:First, it’s important to acknowledge that tech hiring as we head into next year remains hyper-focused on specialization. Companies are now focusing on hiring for skills like AI and machine learning.Second, for recruiters and hiring managers tasked with finding the best tech talent, it’s about more than just salaries. Perks like free lunches are becoming less important to candidates. Instead, they’re very interested in working for a company with a mission they care about, as well as work-life balance, the ability to work remotely, and opportunities for professional growth and development.Third, it’s critical during these uncertain times to build trust with your team through personal connections and open communication. If you’re any kind of manager or team leader, providing direct feedback helps employees improve and see how their own goals align with the company’s mission.Fourth, many tech pros are still interested in working for companies that lean into diversity, equity and inclusion. Recruiters need to push back on hiring biases and ensure diverse candidate pools, while hiring managers need to be open to interviewing candidates from various backgrounds.There was a lot more in that discussion, of course, so give it another listen if you feel so inclined. Thank you for joining us—and remember, Dice is your best resource to find the tech talent you need to fill your open roles, and for technologists, the best place to grow your tech career.49. Episode 49: Zapata AI CEO Christopher Savoie
25:14||Season 1, Ep. 49Hello, and welcome to Tech Connects, Dice's podcast where we dig into the topics on tech hiring, recruiting and careers that matter to you. I'm your host, Nick Kolakowski. Our next guest on “Tech Connects” is Christopher Savoie, who’s the CEO of Zapata AI, which is figuring out how to best integrate artificial intelligence into industrial-scale applications. In other words, he spends all day thinking about how to make the massive systems that underlie our lives, from supply chains to manufacturing hubs, even smarter and more efficient. If his name is familiar, it’s because he’s the co-inventor of AAOSA, the A.I.-based natural language interface technology used to develop Apple’s Siri, so he’s been in the AI game for a very long time. I wanted to get Christopher’s take on the future of AI, the risks we need to be aware of, and the complexities of deploying this technology at enormous scale. It was a fascinating conversation and moved very quickly, with a ton of points covered, so buckle up!Here are some key points from our discussion:AI is more than just chatbots: While generative AI has gained popularity through chatbots, its applications extend far beyond natural language processing. Zapata AI demonstrates how AI can be used to solve complex industrial problems through advanced mathematical modeling and optimization.Quantum-inspired algorithms can tackle complex problems: Zapata AI's approach leverages quantum-inspired algorithms to efficiently handle the complexity of industrial challenges. This showcases the potential of quantum computing concepts even before the widespread availability of quantum hardware. AI can enhance human decision-making: By automating routine tasks and providing data-driven insights, AI can support human decision-makers in industries like logistics, finance, and healthcare. This can lead to improved efficiency, reduced errors, and better outcomes. The future of AI is multi-modal and domain-specific: As AI continues to evolve, we can expect to see more specialized AI models that combine different types of data (e.g., text, images, numbers) to address specific tasks. This will enable more tailored and effective AI solutions across various industries. We hope this episode has helped you with some new insights into AI. We'll see you next time-and remember, we are your best resource to find the tech talent you need to fill your open roles, and for technologists, the best place to grow your tech career.48. Episode 48: Stefan Weitz, who’s co-founder and CEO of HumanX
27:52||Season 1, Ep. 48Our latest guest on ‘Tech Connects’ is Stefan Weitz, who’s co-founder and CEO of HumanX, which is currently planning a flagship AI conference in Las Vegas in March 2025. HumanX will use an extensive lineup of AI experts and executives to explore how this technology will impact everything from marketing and healthcare to cybersecurity. Seriously, there's going to be a lot of speakers and a lot of tracks. I first met Stefan more than a decade ago when he was at Microsoft and I was at Slashdot. At the time, he was senior director and chief evangelist for Bing, Microsoft’s search engine, which was a very new product. I remember talking to him pretty extensively about topics such as machine learning and surfacing useful data in response to queries. Thanks to the advent of AI, such topics have only grown more complex and important. Listen in as we chat about everything from spinning up HumanX to how AI might evolve over the next few years!Here are some additional things to consider as you plan your own AI journey. First, it's critical to approach AI strategically, which means don't rush into AI without a clear plan. Develop a well thought-out strategy that considers your specific business needs and goals.Second, focus on high-impact projects. Prioritize AI work that has the potential to significantly boost your business operations and outcomes. Avoid being distracted by low-value initiatives.Third, build cross functional teams. Assemble people with diverse expertise to ensure a comprehensive approach to AI implementation.Fourth, consider the implications. As you develop and deploy AI solutions, be mindful of the ethical considerations involved. Ensure that your AI systems are as fair, unbiased, and transparent as possible. We covered a whole lot of other topics during the episode, of course, so give it a re-listen if there was something you missed. We'll see you next time, and remember, Dice is your best resource to find the tech talent you need to fill your open roles… and for tech pros, the best place to grow your tech career.47. Episode 47: Carmen Hudson, author and recruiting expert
29:13||Season 1, Ep. 47Hello, and welcome to Tech Connects, Dice's podcast where we dig into the topics on tech hiring, recruiting and careers that matter to you. I'm your host, Nick Kolakowski, and today we're going to be talking about the current state of the recruiting and talent acquisition market with Carmen Hudson, an author and recruiting expert.Carmen has led corporate recruiting teams, built recruiting software, co-founded a tech recruiting conference, and trained recruiters. She’s also the author of the new book, “The Corporate Recruiter’s Playbook: Strategies for Hiring Top Talent,” which offers essential advice to recruiters and corporate leaders about how to attract and retain talent. As you’ll hear, we’ll chat about how recruiters and talent acquisition specialists can use their communication skills and other tools to refine and improve their hiring processes, even when things at a company get chaotic. We’re also inevitably going to talk about AI, as well.Here are some key takeaways for you as you proceed along your own recruiting and hiring journey:First, to truly understand the specific skills and behaviors required for a role, go beyond surface-level discussions with hiring managers. Collaborate closely with them to create accurate and detailed job descriptions that clearly define both technical and behavioral requirements. This ensures that candidates are well-aligned with the role's needs.Second, prioritize quality over quantity in your recruitment efforts. Resist the pressure to fill positions quickly at the expense of finding the right candidates. Implement a more thoughtful and deliberate sourcing and screening process that focuses on identifying high-quality individuals who align with the role's specific requirements.Third, leverage AI strategically to streamline certain tasks, but recognize its limitations. Combine AI with human judgment to ensure a comprehensive assessment of candidates. Stay updated on emerging AI technologies and their potential applications in recruiting to optimize your processes.Fourth, invest in continuous learning to stay informed about industry trends, emerging technologies, and best practices in recruiting. Develop a deep understanding of the technical aspects of the roles you're recruiting for to effectively assess candidates' qualifications. Seek opportunities for professional development and upskilling to enhance your recruiting expertise.We hope this episode has helped you with some new insights into recruiting, especially in the context of tech. We'll see you next time-and remember, we are your best resource to find the tech talent you need to fill your open roles, and for technologists, the best place to grow your tech career.46. Episode 46: Katrina Collier, Recruiting Expert and Author
33:35||Season 1, Ep. 46Hello, and welcome to Tech Connects, Dice's podcast where we dig into the topics on tech hiring, recruiting and careers that matter to you. I'm your host, Nick Kolakowski.Our latest guest has been on the show before: Katrina Collier, a recruiting expert who’s an author, speaker, mentor, and facilitator specializing in the human side of talent acquisition. Her passion is ensuring that recruiters and companies deliver a great candidate experience. Her latest book is titled “Reboot Hiring,” and it focuses on the ways that executives, managers, and other business leaders can effectively reboot a hiring process that’s only gotten more complicated and expensive in recent years. As you’ll hear during our discussion, Katrina thinks that AI isn’t solving every issue confronting talent acquisition experts and recruiters right now. Instead, companies seeking to hire the best tech talent need to concentrate more than ever on the human side of things. Here are some key takeaways from our chat:First, the talent acquisition landscape has undergone significant changes due to the pandemic, economic fluctuations, and the rise of AI. Companies have over-hired and laid off staff multiple times, leading to a chaotic and uncertain environment. It may take some time for this situation to sort itself out, but it also creates opportunities for recruiters and companies who are willing to approach their hiring challenges with emotional intelligence. Second, while AI offers potential benefits in TA, it can also introduce biases and challenges. It is important to use AI strategically and ethically, focusing on areas where it can add value, such as automation and data analysis. However, relying solely on AI can lead to suboptimal outcomes, especially when human judgment and emotional intelligence are crucial.Third, despite the advancements in AI, human interaction remains essential for successful talent acquisition. Managers need to develop strong relationships with their TA teams, listen to their expertise, and collaborate effectively. By prioritizing human connection and understanding, companies can create a more engaging and effective hiring process.Fourth, emotional intelligence is crucial for navigating the complex challenges of modern TA. Leaders must be willing to be vulnerable, admit their limitations, and seek guidance from their teams. By fostering a culture of collaboration and trust, leaders can create a more positive and productive work environment.We’ve covered quite a bit in this episode, so give it another listen if there was anything you missed. We’ll see you next time, and remember—Dice is your best resource to find the tech talent you need to fill your open roles, and for tech professionals, the best place to grow your tech career.45. Episode 45: Seth Robinson, vice president of industry research at CompTIA
27:09||Season 1, Ep. 45Our next ‘Tech Connects’ guest is Seth Robinson, who’s vice president of industry research at CompTIA, the Computing Technology Industry Association. CompTIA offers education, training, certifications, and monthly research. If you read Dice’s articles and e-books, you know we cite their research pretty constantly, including their monthly analysis of the tech unemployment rate and job trends. I wanted to talk to Seth because he recently wrote a whitepaper on how organizations are developing AI strategies, including what AI could mean for tech professionals both in the near- and long-term. Let’s listen to his key insights into AI and how it might impact your own journey through the tech industry. There’s a lot of chatter right now about all things AI-related, so it’s great to step back and take a broader view on the technology and the industries it impacts. Here are some additional takeaways from our conversation: First, the AI hype train is slowing down. It's essential to recognize that while AI has the potential to revolutionize industries, it's not a magic solution. Instead, it's a tool that can augment existing workflows and processes. Understanding this distinction is crucial for setting realistic expectations and avoiding overhyped promises.Second, effective AI implementation hinges on robust data management. Companies need to prioritize data cleaning, organization, and analysis to maximize the value of AI tools. Additionally, core skills in areas like software programming, cybersecurity, and data analysis remain essential. AI is often integrated into existing tools and platforms, so proficiency in these areas is vital.Third, as AI becomes more prevalent, the ability to critically evaluate AI outputs will be increasingly important. Professionals need to develop skills to assess the reliability and accuracy of AI-generated information. This includes understanding the limitations of AI algorithms and the potential for errors.Fourth, successful AI integration requires collaboration across different departments and roles. Technology and business teams must work together to define goals, identify challenges, and allocate resources effectively. A holistic approach that considers the interplay of people, processes, and technology is essential for maximizing the benefits of AI.Keeping these points in mind will help you and your company use AI more effectively. We’ve covered quite a bit in this episode, so give it another listen if there was anything you missed. We’ll see you next time, and remember—Dice is your best resource to find the tech talent you need to fill your open roles, and for tech professionals, the best place to grow your tech career.