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148. Fairer NDAs | Rise of gaming divisions | Charlie Rudd profile
When Dept opened a games-focused division called Dept/Games, the agency cited a vast majority of younger audiences identifying as gamers (88% of Gen Z) as a reason for creating the division.
Campaign’s technology and gaming editor Coral Cripps quizzes Suzy Barnes, chief executive of Diva, Brent Koning, global lead at Dentsu Gaming, and Rachel Rakowski, global head of gaming at We Are Social.
They discuss industry trends, favourite campaigns and why more agencies are dedicating entire teams and divisions towards gaming.
Campaign's creativity and culture editor Gurjit Degun and work and inspiration editor Imogen Watson also comment on the latest articles on this website, including a profile piece on Charlie Rudd, group chief executive at Publicis.Poke, Leo Burnett and Fallon, and a feature on non-disclosure agreements.
With Charlie Rudd at the helm, Leo Burnett UK achieved an “excellent” score of eight in Campaign's School Reports this year – also taking home the Creative Agency, Creative Leader and Strategic Leader trophies at Campaign’s Agency of the Year Awards.
Further reading:
Charlie Rudd: the man who makes you want to buy
Harassment in adland: agencies hesitate in stamping out gagging clauses
Dept launches gaming division after finding '88% of Gen Z are gamers'
Gaming-focused agency Diva launches media division
We Are Social appoints global head of gaming division
Dentsu hires Electronic Arts exec to head global gaming ops
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112. Do advertising awards still hold the same weight?
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111. How are the big three holding companies doing after Q3?
30:30||Season 4, Ep. 111The big three holding companies – Publicis Groupe, Omnicom and WPP – have reported their Q3 results, and each are on different journeys. WPP is working on its turnaround Elevate28 plan, Omnicom is nearing one year since its acquisition of IPG, and Publicis points to its "record new-business" run, winning accounts without a pitch. This episode features journalists from Campaign UK and US discussing how the last three months have gone for big three, what each of the CEOs have said on their results, and the recent fight over two of the biggest media accounts, Coca-Cola and PepsiCo. As was well-reported, Publicis stole Pepsi from Omnicom, which in turn won Coca-Cola’s North America account, which WPP declined to take part in, though it retained Coca-Cola’s international business. Emmy Liederman, managing editor at Campaign US, joins the episode to discuss her rare interview with Omnicom chief executive John Wren. Gideon Spanier, UK editor-in-chief, provides his analysis of the holding company earnings calls and Ellie Lewis, data editor Campaign UK, provides the headline figures of the results. The episode is hosted by tech and multimedia editor Lucy Shelley.Further reading:Podcast: Does Publicis' PepsiCo coup mean pitching is changing?Cindy Rose criticises 'pitch-less CEO handshake' dealsIs John Wren right to say 'everybody’s replaceable'?Arthur Sadoun on winning without pitching and why the new ‘big three’ is driving ‘profound’ changeThe key charts behind WPP’s Q3 2026 resultsThe key charts behind Omnicom’s Q3 2026 resultsThe key charts behind Publicis Groupe’s Q3 2026 resultsQ2 results: Is Cindy Rose’s Elevate28 plan working?
110. What makes Campaign’s Power 100 marketers influential?
23:03||Season 4, Ep. 110Last week Campaign published its Power 100 for 2026, a list of the top 100 most influential marketers in the UK.The list was accompanied with a shoot to capture the brand leaders, as well as a feature digging into where they are investing their ad spend. This episode features Campaign’s senior art director Paul Frost going behind-the-scenes of the shoot and using the idea of "quiet power" to capture the Power 100. Campaign’s deputy editor Gemma Charles and features editor Antonia Garrett Peel also join the episode to discuss how the marketers navigating the rise in influencers and balancing it with traditional media.The episode is hosted by tech and multimedia editor Lucy Shelley.Further reading:Campaign Power 100 2026: the full listPower 100 2026: the age of influenceCampaign Power 100 2026: Hall of Fame line-up
109. What do the Media Week Awards judges make of this year's winners?
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108. What can we expect from the Christmas ads this year?
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107. Is WPP's investment in production a step change for the sector?
26:25||Season 4, Ep. 107WPP Production opened its first global flagship office in September with an AI-powered high-tech studio in Devon’s Point, East London. Deputy creativity and culture editor Charlotte Rawlings attended the opening and gives her perspective on the facility.The opening comes as WPP’s Q2 results showed WPP Production was the only one of the holding company’s four units that reported positive growth.Also in September, internal guidance from WPP Production was seen by campaign which asked staff to convince clients to insource all production, and avoid traditional commercial bidding by providing all three bids from WPP. This caused furore among independents and reignited a longstanding debate between in-house agency production companies and independents.In this episode, Campaign's editorial team is looking into why production is such big battleground, and if WPP’s investment marks a step change for the sector. Tech and multimedia editor Lucy Shelley hosts the episode which features Rawlings, alongside creativity and culture editor, Gurjit Degun, and UK editor Maisie McCabe.Further reading:WPP Production takes down insourcing guidance'A risk the work becomes narrower and worse': adland reacts to WPP Production insourcing guidanceWPP closes Hogarth and launches WPP Production
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106. Which TV campaigns have defined the medium?
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105. What happens when DEI is centralised?
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