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Adam Gopnik on what it takes to keep liberal democracies alive
In Berkeley Talks episode 202, New Yorker writer Adam Gopnik discusses liberalism — what it means, why we need it and the endless dedication it requires to maintain.
Liberal democracy, he said at a UC Berkeley event in April, depends on two pillars: free and fair elections and the practice of open institutions, places where people can meet and debate without the pressures of overt supervision.
Gopnik said these spaces of “commonplace civilization” — coffeehouses, parks, even zoos — enable democratic elections to “reform, accelerate and improve.”
“These secondary institutions … are not in themselves explicitly political at all, but provide little arenas in which we learn the habits of coexistence, mutual toleration and the difficult, but necessary, business of collaborating with those who come from vastly different backgrounds, classes, castes and creeds from ourselves.”
And what makes liberalism unique, he said, is that it requires a commitment to constant reform.
“People get exhausted by the search for perpetual reform,” he said. “But we have to be committed to reform because our circles of compassion, no matter how we try to broaden them, come to an end.”
So it’s up to each of us, he said, to always refocus our attention on the other, to re-understand and expand our circles of compassion.
Listen to the episode and read the transcript on Berkeley News (news.berkeley.edu/podcasts).
Photo courtesy of Adam Gopnik.
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239. The complicated role of media in motherhood
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238. Top Biden official calls for unity, ‘moral courage’ in public service
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236. Long said to be ‘too big to fail,’ the ocean needs a new narrative
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235. Alva Noë on how art allows us to see everyday things anew
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234. How forgiveness changes you and your brain
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233. Nobel laureate Jennifer Doudna on CRISPR and the future of gene editing
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232. Berkeley scholars unpack what's at stake for U.S. democracy
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