Words Matter


Nina Totenberg -- Legendary Supreme Court Journalist

Season 2, Ep. 13

Katie welcomes her friend Nina Totenberg to Words Matter. Nina is NPR's award winning and legendary legal affairs correspondent. Her coverage of the Supreme Court and legal and political affairs has won her widespread recognition. Newsweek calls her "the creme de la creme of NPR" and Vanity Fair calls her "Queen of the Leaks." She's not a lawyer but any lawyer in Washington will tell you she knows more about the law than they do.

From more than 30 years, Nina Totenberg has broken some of the biggest stories in some of the most important and consequential events in the history of Supreme Court nominations. Listen to Nina talk with Katie about the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, the Mueller Report and executive privilege and her special friendship with the Terminator -- former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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Deep State Radio: A Song of Fire and Ice...and Cyber and Terrorists and Lawyers

Season 3
In Game of Thrones leadership decisions were made with the help of dragons and Moon Doors and Valyrian steel daggers.In America today, people play just as rough buttheir tools are cyber warfare, disinformation, mobilized extremist groups and court orders that suppress the vote.It is so sordid it makes you wish there were still a dragon ortwo available.But absent that, understanding and preparing for the threats democracy faces is our best option.That's on this episode we speak to former FBI Agent andcyber specialist Clint Watts, former White House official Dr. Kavita Patel and "Just Security" co-editor and NYU law professor Ryan Goodman.Don't miss it.Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces newepisodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You cansubscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listeningvia private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community.This is one of the most closely followedpodcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today.You can learn more by visitingthedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout.