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Intimacy & Menopause with Sam Evans co-founder of Jo Divine

Season 10, Ep. 3

This week we welcome back a friend of ours who was one of our very first guests back in 2021, sexual health and pleasure expert Sam Evans, who is the co-founder of Jo Divine, an online sex toy company which she set up with husband Paul in 2007.

We have been looking forward to chatting to Sam again and as usual Sam was full of practical and useful information about all things sex, intimacy, and pleasure.

Sam has a background in nursing, and has written hundreds of practical articles about sexual health and pleasure for Jo Divine and for leading websites, she has also featured in Radio fours women's Hour and the Channel 4 Documentary 'Sex, myths and menopause'

A fellow Menopause activist and campaigner, Sam works hard to ensure anyone going through the perimenopause, menopause and beyond can continue to enjoy good sexual intimacy and pleasure if they wish to. She says 'No one has to give up on enjoying pleasurable sex when there is practical advice, skin safe products and irritant free sexual lubricants and moisturisers that can transform your intimate health and sexual pleasure'


Sam has given our listeners a 10% discount code at Jo Divine: www.jodivine.com valid from 5.5.2024 - 9.6.2024

using the code: WKC2024

The book Sam talks about is Mind the Gap by Dr Karen Gurney.


In the Book Collective we continue reading Unwell Women by Elinor Cleghorn, we met two incredible women, in chapters 3 and 4, one who quite literally defied death twice.

You can join in with our Book Club, send us a DM or voice note with your thoughts on the book.


We catch up on your comments and Lou asks why clothes models look so glum, and also do you have a noisy eating partner? Jinty ponders the question of why we name inanimate objects. It's another episode brimming with chat and all the usual shenanigans! So, settle in for this hourish) podcast full of meaningful chat.

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  • 9. Alcohol and the Menopause

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