Wise Men Say

Eleanor and Richard to react to our home defeat to Arsenal.

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay and Jon Ellenor as the lads look back on the Carabao Cup victory against Hull City, the return of Chemsdine Talbi, and then preview Arsenal's visit to Sunderland on Saturday night.

Richard Easterbrook speaks to journalist and Arsenal supporter Jordan Jarrett-Bryan to get a Gunners perspective ahead of Saturday's encounter at the Stadium of Light.

Stephen and Gareth chat about Sunderland's draw at Brentford. A good result but frustrating the performance didn't bring the win. Chat on the rest of the league and there's a false Danny Graham memory.

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Gareth Barker and Jimmy Reay to look ahead to Sunderland's trip down to London to face Brentford at the end of what has been a very busy week on Wearside.The lads also discuss the closure of the transfer window, the recently-announced Europa League squad, the future of Chemsdine Talbi and if any of the new players will feature at the Gtech Stadium at the weekend.There's also Brentford perspective from Dave Lane, of the Beesotted Brentford podcast.

Stephen, Mick and Jordan talk more about the much needed 1-0 win against Fulham.

Sunderland beat Fulham 1-0. Hear some people talk about it.

Stephen and Gareth are joined by Rory Fallow to discuss Sunderland's first ever Europa League draw. Milan away, did you say?

After a disappointing loss to Ipswich, it's Fulham up next for Sunderland. Phil Smith from the Sunderland Echo joins Stephen and Eleanor.