Wise Men Say

The Monday debrief is here as Sunderland slip to defeat at Vicarage Road. Stephen is joined by Eleanor and Jimmy to discuss.

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Eleanor McCabe to talk Hornets (and Wasps), Regis Le Bris and Sunderland ahead of the Black Cats' trip to Vicarage Road on Saturday.

Another fancied side beaten. Is there something good happening here? Stephen and Gareth catch up in the pub to discuss.

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough as we react to Sunderland's 1-0 win over Middlesbrough!

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay as the lads preview Sunderland's home game against Middlesbrough on Saturday. There's the customary debate about whether it's a derby or not, and there's also some Boro insight from The Northern Echo's Scott Wilson.

Stephen Goldsmith and Gareth Barker are joined by former Black Cat Lee Howey to discuss our first defeat of the season.

Hear from Micky Lough during his day out to Plymouth. All that way to watch The Lads suffer a surprise defeat. Sigh. 

Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay to look ahead to Sunderland's SkyBet Championship fixture at Plymouth Argyle, where the Black Cats can create history by winning their first five games of the season.

Stephen catches up with Ali Maxwell, a regular Sky Sports pundit but more importantly, founder of the excellent Not The Top 20</a> website and podcast, unrivalled in all the things you could possibly want to know about teams currently outside the top flight. Be sure to check them out and engage with their top quality content.Find them at https://www.ntt20.com