Wise Men Say

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay as the lads preview Sunderland's home game against Middlesbrough on Saturday. There's the customary debate about whether it's a derby or not, and there's also some Boro insight from The Northern Echo's Scott Wilson.

Stephen Goldsmith and Gareth Barker are joined by former Black Cat Lee Howey to discuss our first defeat of the season.

Hear from Micky Lough during his day out to Plymouth. All that way to watch The Lads suffer a surprise defeat. Sigh. 

Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay to look ahead to Sunderland's SkyBet Championship fixture at Plymouth Argyle, where the Black Cats can create history by winning their first five games of the season.

Stephen catches up with Ali Maxwell, a regular Sky Sports pundit but more importantly, founder of the excellent Not The Top 20</a> website and podcast, unrivalled in all the things you could possibly want to know about teams currently outside the top flight. Be sure to check them out and engage with their top quality content.Find them at https://www.ntt20.com

Gareth Barker is joined by the Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith to assess another win, the transfer window and our excellent start to the season.

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough as Sunderland's perfect start to the season continues with a fine 3-1 away win at Portsmouth!

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay as the lads look ahead to Sunderland's trip to Portsmouth and answer some listener questions.

Eleanor McCabe is joined my WMS regulars Chris Wetherspoon, Tom Walsh and Jimmy Reay to discuss an excellent win over recently relegated Burnley.