Wise Men Say

Stephen Goldsmith and Richard Easterbrook bring you another close season chat as they discuss the new Sunderland AFC membership tier and what it could mean for supporters; we briefly discuss a transfer target of the club; then take a look at England's World Cup semi-final against Argentina.

Stephen and Rick have a quick discussion on the lack of transfers (wouldn't be a long one would it). Also, promising youngster and Mackem Armenian, Finn Geragusian signs a new deal. Then it's onto England's win in Mexico and a bit of what's next. 

Stephen and Jonathan catch up to talk Sunderland, not that there's a lot to catch up on. Pink kits will always divide people. But aren't the lads smashing it over in the World Cup? They discuss that and a little bit about England (and Scotland). 

As Sunderland AFC marks two years since appointing Regis Le Bris as head coach, we take a look back at that week in 2024, how we, a French football expert and fans of Le Bris' previous club Lorient reacted to that latest managerial appointment - and what the man himself had to say.Fair to say some of the opinions have aged terribly, but some have aged like a fine wine!

Stephen and Rick are at the Fixtures Breakfast at the Beacon of Light, home of the wonderful Foundation of Light. They bring you their instant reaction to the fixtures and catch Kevin Ball, along with Foundation COO, Jamie Wright.

As World Cup fever sweeps the globe, we've swapped club for country and talk about the three-country jamboree currently taking place over the pond. Stephen and Rick are joined by Dawson Pies for an American perspective, while there's loads of stuff about first tournaments, a potential opportunity to right some historic wrongs at the Azteca Stadium and what we've all made of the tournament thus far.

Stephen and Rick met Chris when they did that YouTube thing in London. The former Love Islander is always spotted watching the lads and as you'll find out, he's done the hard yards!

Chris Weatherspoon... sorry that's The Athletic's finance writer, Chris Weatherspoon is back and we're finally letting him do a full pod on the finances. What does the 7th placed finish and European football mean for the books? Do we have to sell? Lots to discuss.

Stephen, Richard and Eleanor are back to talk over some more thoughts from over the last season, including some listener observations.That's all from us for the 2025/26 season, we'll be back at some point over the summer. Keep checking out our Patreon feed for some extra bonus content - see you next season! Thanks for all your support on what has been a quite incredible year supporting Sunderland.