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Michael Shellenberger - What Trump’s Victory Means For America’s Future
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Donald Trump’s conclusive MAGA victory is a rebuke of totalitarian woke ideology. Or so says Michael Shellenberger, one of America’s foremost investigative journalist and founder of PUBLIC.
We sit down in NYC in the aftermath of the conclusive election results to discuss what VP Kamala Harris’ loss means for the Democrat Party, and what the Trump victory means for America.
Michael lays down the White Pill - an optimists celebration of what has happened. What does this mean for woke ideology, the politics of envy, political correctness, and the suffocating Progressive politics of the last 20 years.
We examine the results themselves, the demographics, the numbers compared to previous elections and the psychological motivations of the different political movements.
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Chapters
00:00 - Michael Shellenberger on the 2024 Presidential Election
04:58 - Emotional Reactions and Media Fracturing
06:03 - Democratic Establishment and Woke Culture
32:57 - Media Fragmentation and Political Realignment
41:24 - Elon Musk and the Future of Free Speech
55:57 - Economic Challenges and Political Dynamics
1:01:20 - The Role of Podcasting & The Future Of The Democrats
1:15:12 - The Impact of the Election on Global Politics
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92. Brendan O'Neill - Ireland's Dark Secret and Why It Become The WOKEST Country In Europe
01:20:33||Season 1, Ep. 92Writer and cultural critic Brendan O’Neill joins The Winston Marshall Show for a searing breakdown of Ireland’s Israel obsession, immigration, and the ideological void left by the collapse of Catholicism.O’Neill paints a portrait of modern Ireland, where Israelophobia has become a quasi-religion—replacing the moral certainty once provided by the Church. From Dublin to rural Connemara, Palestinian flags fly, Holocaust memorials are politicised, and the Irish President himself compares Israel to the Nazis.They explore Ireland’s drift from its once pro-Israel roots, the rewriting of Irish history, and the influence of postcolonial ideology and woke dogma. O’Neill warns that antisemitism is no longer just a fringe prejudice—it’s now embedded in elite institutions, political discourse, and cultural life.All this—Ireland’s moral inversion, anti-Israel mania, the rise of “progressive” bigotry, and the dangerous return of the oldest hatred in a new disguise…-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 0:00 Introduction2:58 The Post-Catholic Era and Its Impact 7:11The Rise of Wokeness and Israelophobia 14:42 Historical Connections Between Ireland and Israel 27:42 The Impact of the Second Vatican Council 36:00 The Role of the Irish President and Government 43:08 The Case of Kneecap and Free Speech 55:44 The Political Response to Immigration in Ireland 1:07:35 The Role of Conor McGregor and Other Voices 1:11:06 The Future of Ireland and Its Political Landscape 1:14:19 A Positive Note on Ireland's Culture and Heritage1:18:41 Final Thoughts91. Andrew Fox - 'I went to Gaza and This Is What I Saw' Middle Expert On Unseen Horrors Of Gaza
01:03:20||Season 1, Ep. 91Middle East specialist Andrew Fox joins The Winston Marshall Show for a haunting, firsthand account of the horrors unfolding in Gaza—and the global narratives that refuse to face the truth.Fox, recently returned from the region, describes scenes of unspeakable brutality—massacres, ch*ld soldiers, and war crimes ignored by much of the international press. He explains how Hamas manipulates both civilians and the global media to fuel its propaganda war, while using human shields to mask its operations.They discuss the international community’s moral double standards, the weaponisation of victimhood, and the psychological toll on those who witness the atrocities firsthand.All this—media distortion, humanitarian tragedy, Hamas war tactics, and the unseen horrors the world still refuses to look at…-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters01:25 Andrew’s Background and Experience05:19 The Destruction in Gaza and Hamas' Tunnels09:46 Media Coverage and the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation20:33 The Ceasefire Deal and Hamas' Future30:15 The Broader Middle East Conflict38:28 The Abraham Accords and Palestinian Statehood51:09 Media Bias and the Role of Journalists in Conflict Zones1:03:00 Final Thoughts90. Matt Goodwin - The Truth About Immigration, Small Boats & Elite Betrayal of Britain
01:20:35||Season 1, Ep. 90Political scientist and author Matt Goodwin returns to The Winston Marshall Show for a conversation on mass immigration, national identity, and Britain’s deepening political crisis.Goodwin argues that the postwar political consensus—built on liberalism, globalism, and open borders—is collapsing. He reveals how mass migration has not only reshaped Britain’s economy but fractured its social fabric, leaving the working class abandoned and the political elite increasingly out of touch.They dive into the failures of both major parties, the rise of Reform UK, and the growing demand for a new politics rooted in national sovereignty, cultural confidence, and democratic accountability.All this—immigration, integration, elite delusion, and the coming realignment of British politics…-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 00:00 Introduction 05:41 Keir Starmer's Immigration Policies and Border Security 15:21 Economic and Social Impacts of Mass Migration21:21 The Decline of the Working Class32:01 Multiculturalism & Division37:23 Immigration and the New Consensus43:10 The Class Realignment52:22 The Role of the Political Class and the Public 1:10:00 The Future of Immigration Policy in the UK 1:17:03 Challenges of Multiculturalism and Political Leadership 1:20:38 The Instinctive British Identity89. Mahyar Tousi - “People are being k*lled!" What's Really Happening In Iran
01:04:21||Season 1, Ep. 89Iranian political commentator and journalist Mahyar Tousi joins The Winston Marshall Show as the seemingly 12-day Israel-Iran war appears to have concluded. Tousi provides a sharp analysis of the current situation within Iran, amidst growing internal unrest, economic collapse, and a regime intensifying its regional chaos to divert attention from its domestic failures.He elucidates how the Islamic Republic is facing domestic losses. We explore the possibility of the regime’s collapse and the sentiments of the Iranian civilian population. Furthermore, Tousi recounts his personal story, including his father’s arrest in Iran and the fatwa issued against him.These factors, along with the escalating Middle East situation, the closure of 50,000 mosques in Iran, British denialism, and the urgent need for moral and strategic clarity in a perilous world, are the subject of this discussion.To keep up to date with news of Iran, check out Mahyar’s channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@TousiTV/streams-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 0:00 Introduction 4:02 How the Regime Lost Control8:11 Voices of Iranians: Fear & Resistance12:34 The Myth of Reform in Tehran16:55 Religious Rule & Cultural Suppression20:23 Why the West Doesn’t Understand Iran25:46 The Chaos Inside Iran’s Institutions29:14 Sanctions, Smuggling & State Survival33:02 What Mahyar's Story Reveals37:56 Will the Regime Collapse?41:35 The Role of Israel, UK & US59:02 Final Thoughts: The Path Ahead88. Bijan Omrani - The Christian Origins Of England - And The Peril Of Losing It
01:18:21||Season 1, Ep. 88Get a better way to stay informed at https://ground.news/winston and see through biased media. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access. Historian Bijan Omrani joins The Winston Marshall Show for a profound conversation on Christianity, Western decline, and the spiritual crisis reshaping our civilisation.Bijan lays out how the erosion of faith has hollowed out Western identity—from the collapse of moral conviction to the rise of relativism and nihilism. He argues that Christianity is not just a personal belief system, but the civilisational glue that once underpinned law, liberty, and culture.They explore the dangers of spiritual amnesia, the seductive void left by postmodernism, and why attempts to rebuild the West without God are doomed to fail.All this—the atrophy of faith, the crisis of meaning, the war on tradition, and the quiet revolution needed to restore the soul of the West…-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters00:00 Introduction 04:37 Christianity's Influence on British Culture08:49 King Alfred's Role in Christianising England 11:13 The Role of Christianity in Law and Society37:36 The Impact of the Reformation on British Culture47:59 The Emergence of English Hymns54:13 The Role of Christianity in British Music56:37 The Decline of Christianity in the 20th Century1:04:52The Church's Response to Modern Challenges87. Dr Benny Morris - "This Is The TRUTH!" Why Peace Has Been Impossible Between Israel & Iran
01:36:03||Season 1, Ep. 87Renowned Israeli historian Benny Morris joins The Winston Marshall Show for a piercing and provocative conversation on the origins of the historic conflict between Israel and Iran — and why the West still doesn’t understand it.Morris dismantles the popular narrative that Zionism was a colonial project, explaining how Jewish statehood was born out of historical necessity, persecution, and repeated rejection by Arab leaders. He charts the trajectory from 1948 to October 7th, tracing a consistent refusal to accept Israel’s existence.They explore the role of religion in the conflict, the enduring power of jihadist ideology, and the failure of peace processes built on Western illusions.All this — Middle East myths, Hamas, U.S. naivety, and why history keeps repeating itself in the Holy Land…See the extended conversation here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters0:00 Introduction 2:05 Iranian Regime's Messianic Outlook and Historical Context 10:33 Islamic Conquests and Jewish Communities 15:59 Shia Islam and Relationship with Jews 20:05 Iranian Revolution and Relations with Israel 30:08 Development of Iranian Proxies 39:14 JCPOA Deal and Its Implications 50:57 Trump's Withdrawal from the JCPOA 55:26 Impact of the 2023 Conflict on Iranian Proxies 1:13:26 Future of Hamas and Palestinian Resistance 1:24:00 Netanyahu's Image and Israel's Conflict with Iran 1:26:33 The Hostage Situation and Hamas' Ideology 1:29:31 Hamas' Demands and Netanyahu's Response 1:30:56 Hezbollah's Weakened Position and Israeli Operations 1:33:30 Potential Outcomes of the War with Iran1:36:20 Regime Change and Future Relations with the Islamic World86. Sir Trevor Phillips - The Truth about Windrush, Immigration and Identity in Britain
01:07:33||Season 1, Ep. 86Writer, broadcaster and former politician, Sir Trevor Phillips joins The Winston Marshall Show for a frank and fearless conversation on Windrush, race and Britain’s deepening cultural divides.Phillips reflects on his journey from championing multiculturalism to warning that Britain’s model of integration is broken. He unpacks how good intentions gave way to segregation, silence, and parallel societies—where shared values are eroded and tough questions are avoided in the name of tolerance.Phillips tackle the failures of the political class, the limits of diversity policy, and the dangers of importing American-style race politics into the British context.All this—identity, immigration, institutional fear, and the reckoning facing a nation that’s lost faith in its own story…-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 00:00 Introduction of Sir Trevor Phillips and His Book 3:57 Personal Links to the Windrush Story 9:07 The Windrush Generation's Ambition and Determination 11:07 Challenges and Misconceptions About Immigrants 17:20 The Impact of the Windrush Generation on British Society 33:21 The Role of Education and Social Discrimination 39:35 The Evolution of British Identity and Tolerance 49:45 The Challenges of Modern Immigration and Integration57:29 The Importance of Legal Immigration and Integration Efforts 1:07:50 The Legacy of the Windrush Generation85. Ambassador Michael Oren - How The West Enabled The Iran Axis to Grow Unchecked
01:04:37||Season 1, Ep. 85Former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Michael Oren joins The Winston Marshall Show for a sweeping conversation on Iran-Israel war — and why the West keeps failing to see the bigger picture.Oren warns that the missile attacks from Iran are just the surface of a much deeper, ideological war—one in which Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and others act as Tehran’s proxies in a global jihadist strategy. He explains why the West misreads the region, mistaking economic grievances for religious zeal, and how this blindness has led to years of appeasement and strategic failure.Oren discusses historic missteps, the illusion of moderation, and the rising threat of a direct Iran–Israel confrontation that could drag the world into war.All this—Iran’s global network, the myth of proportionality, jihadist ideology, and the price of Western naivety…-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 00:00 Introduction 07:32 The Obama Administration's Approach to Iran 20:06 The Trump Administration's Perspective 25:00 The Biden Administration's Approach and the JCPOA's Violations 34:47 The Military Capabilities and Strategy of Operation Lion's Roar 45:28 The Potential for Regime Change in Iran 57:43 The Role of the U.S. and International Support 1:00:10 The Impact of British and Canadian Actions on Israel 1:04:03 The Historical and Geopolitical Context of the Conflict84. Eylon Levy - “Israel Is Doing The World’s Dirty Work” The Next Great War Begins
01:01:06||Season 1, Ep. 84Former Israeli government spokesman, Eylon Levy joins The Winston Marshall Show to break down the recent wave of attacks between Israel and Iran—and what they signal for the future of the Middle East.Levy details how the Islamic Republic’s fingerprints are all over the region’s escalating chaos: from Hamas’s massacre on October 7th, to missile strikes launched from Syria and Iraq, to Hezbollah’s mounting aggression in the north. He warns that Iran’s proxy war is entering a new phase.We discuss wavering support, the failure of Western deterrence, and why the global community’s obsession with “proportionality” is empowering the very forces threatening regional—and global—stability.All this—Iranian escalation, proxy terror, Western weakness, and the gathering storm on Israel’s borders…-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------0:00 Introduction3:20 What's happening 7:15 The Problem With Western Media10:48 What the Left Gets Wrong About Israel14:32 The ‘Decolonization’ Narrative19:40 Is Israel Winning the Media War?25:10 The Iranian Threat & Israel’s Dilemma29:30 The Disinformation Playbook34:45 The Global Rise of Antisemitism38:00 Why Israel Is Fighting for the West41:45 TikTok Genocide Deniers & Online Hate45:30 The Limits of International Law49:00 What Happens After Hamas?52:40 Eylon’s Message to the World