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Michael Shellenberger - What Trump’s Victory Means For America’s Future
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Donald Trump’s conclusive MAGA victory is a rebuke of totalitarian woke ideology. Or so says Michael Shellenberger, one of America’s foremost investigative journalist and founder of PUBLIC.
We sit down in NYC in the aftermath of the conclusive election results to discuss what VP Kamala Harris’ loss means for the Democrat Party, and what the Trump victory means for America.
Michael lays down the White Pill - an optimists celebration of what has happened. What does this mean for woke ideology, the politics of envy, political correctness, and the suffocating Progressive politics of the last 20 years.
We examine the results themselves, the demographics, the numbers compared to previous elections and the psychological motivations of the different political movements.
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Chapters
00:00 - Michael Shellenberger on the 2024 Presidential Election
04:58 - Emotional Reactions and Media Fracturing
06:03 - Democratic Establishment and Woke Culture
32:57 - Media Fragmentation and Political Realignment
41:24 - Elon Musk and the Future of Free Speech
55:57 - Economic Challenges and Political Dynamics
1:01:20 - The Role of Podcasting & The Future Of The Democrats
1:15:12 - The Impact of the Election on Global Politics
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128. Dinesh D’Souza - Radical Islam, Immigration & The New WWII Revisionism
01:10:26||Season 1, Ep. 128In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Dinesh D’Souza, one of America’s most influential conservative thinkers and filmmakers, for a powerful conversation on radical Islam, liberal democracy, and the new movement to rewrite World War II history.D’Souza breaks down the recent Islamist terror attacks in America, the “red-green alliance” between the far-left and radical Islam, and how Western freedoms are now being weaponised to undermine the very democracies that protect them. He warns that liberalism’s own tolerance has become its Achilles’ heel, a paradox that threatens to unravel the moral fabric of the West.We also explore the rise of World War II revisionism on the American right from Tucker Carlson to Nick Fuentes and D’Souza’s inside account of how Pat Buchanan’s ideas about Churchill, Hitler, and the “decline of the West” gave birth to this disturbing new ideology. Drawing on his time in the Reagan White House, D’Souza reflects on the philosophical roots of American conservatism, the tension between liberty and order, and how inflation and cultural decay are eroding the civilisation the Founders built.All this plus Islamist radicalisation, the fall of assimilation, liberal democracy’s blind spots, and the dangerous rewriting of history now shaping America’s right.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 0:00 Introduction 8:16 Radicalisation and Vetting13:03 Assimilation and Cultural Pressure20:54 Islam in America25:18 Radical Islam and Local Politics41:59 World War II Revisionism and Historical Context58:16 Post-War Liberalism and Institutional Distrust1:02:30 The New Divide on the Right1:07:52 Final Thoughts
127. Bob of Speakers’ Corner - Confronting Islam & Reviving Britain’s Christianity
56:55||Season 1, Ep. 127In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Bob of Speakers' Corner, one of Britain’s most recognisable street preachers and Christian debaters, for a provocative conversation about faith, free speech, and the future of Britain’s identity.Bob recounts how a Muslim once tried to convert him to Islam, an encounter that instead led him to Christianity and set him on a mission to defend the faith at London’s Hyde Park, one of the last true bastions of free speech in the UK. He discusses the rise of Islamist intimidation at Speakers' Corner, from stabbings and arson attacks to police indifference and media silence, and why he believes Britain is now a post-free speech country.We explore Bob’s vision of a Christian nation, his critique of liberal secularism, and his warning against both Islamism and ethno-nationalism, which he sees as twin dangers to the soul of Britain. He argues that only a return to Judeo-Christian values, the foundation of British law and morality, can rescue the country from cultural decay.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see the extended and ad free interview click here: https://open.substack.com/pub/winstonmarshall/p/confronting-islam-and-reviving-britains?r=18lfab&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:31 Bob of Speakers’ Corner03:39 What is Speakers’ Corner06:23 Challenges and Motives at Speakers’ Corner 13:21 Bob's Conversion and Evangelism18:10 Christian Nationalism and Free Speech25:07 The Role of Christianity in Politics36:18 The Patriot Movement and Christianity50:38 The Importance of Judeo-Christian Tradition52:54 Final Thoughts
126. Sir Richard Evans - The Dark Origins of Hitler Revisionism, Churchill Smear and Holocaust Denial
01:37:08||Season 1, Ep. 126In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Sir Richard Evans, Britain’s leading historian of Nazi Germany and the chief expert witness in the landmark David Irving v. Deborah Lipstadt trial: a case that exposed the methods and motives behind Holocaust denial.Eighty years on from the end of World War Two, Evans warns that we are entering a new age of historical falsification, where the Holocaust is downplayed, Churchill is recast as the villain, and Hitler is bizarrely rehabilitated by a new generation of so-called “revisionists.”We discuss the rise of online pseudo-historians and the viral spread of Nazi revisionism, and why figures like Nick Fuentes, Norman Finkelstein, and Daryl Cooper are reviving narratives once pioneered by Irving. Evans explains how this distortion of history threatens not only truth itself but the moral foundations of the West.The rebirth of Holocaust denial, the war on truth, and the dangerous rewriting of our collective memory.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:44 Why This Debate Matters03:02 Who Is David Irving?10:23 Inside the Irving Trial: Evidence vs. Manipulation17:27 How Irving Falsified History26:38 Breaking Down the Holocaust Denial Tactics43:17 Dresden: The 200,000 Casualty Myth51:47 The “Churchill Was the Villain” Argument1:04:57 The Holocaust They Never Mention1:33:46 Why Historical Truth Still Matters Today
125. The Dangerous Fracturing on the American Right Over Israel
01:18:34||Season 1, Ep. 125In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with journalist Emily Schrader to unpack the growing ideological fracture inside the American right over Israel, Gaza, and US foreign aid.Schrader explains how debates over Israel have become the new battleground from Megyn Kelly to JD Vance, Dave Smith, and the rising “groyper” movement. She explores how online algorithms, anti-establishment anger, and a resurgence of antisemitic tropes are reshaping right-wing politics in ways no one seems able to control.We examine the clash between “America First” isolationists and traditional pro-Israel conservatives, the spread of dual loyalty rhetoric and AIPAC narratives, and why younger conservatives are being pulled toward extremist figures like Nick Fuentes. Schrader also sets out why Israel’s struggle with Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah matters directly to American security, and how states like Qatar and Iran stand to benefit when the American right turns against Israel.This episode looks at the new conservative realignment, the rise of groyper ideology, the political implications for JD Vance, and what this shift means for the future direction of the American right.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:10 Israel as a Dividing Line on the American Right 29:59 Criticism of American Right's Stance on Israel 36:50 The Role of Trump and the American Right43:38 The International Plan for Gaza53:31 The Role of the UN and British Foreign Policy 56:42 The Epstein Files 1:05:28 Suppression of Protests in Iran1:15:17 Economic and Leadership Challenges in Iran1:18:04 Closing Thoughts
124. The Scottish Korean - ‘You Can’t Critique Islam In Britain” Terrorism Powers Used on Islam Critic…
49:59||Season 1, Ep. 124In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Ryan Williams, the Scottish musician, former Netflix contestant, and outspoken critic of Islam whose return to Britain has ignited an international media storm.After being detained under anti-terror laws at Heathrow and de-banked, Ryan tells his story for the first time from being banned by Virgin Atlantic to having his phones and laptop seized under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. He explains how his criticism of Islam, first aired on Australian television, made him one of the most controversial voices in Britain’s free speech debate.We explore Britain’s shrinking tolerance for dissent, the blurred line between hate speech legislation and political persecution, and the question of what free expression really means in a nation that once prided itself on liberty. Ryan reflects on the personal cost he has paid, including family estrangement, financial blacklisting, and constant threats, and why he continues to speak out despite the consequences.This episode dives into his arrest, de-banking, the Islamophobia dispute, the state of free speech in Britain, and the future of Western liberty in an age defined by fear.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 0:00 Introduction 02:22 Legal and Social Media Context03:29 Virgin Atlantic Incident 10:28 Personal Background and Motivation25:20 Critique of Islam and Free Speech 27:15 Interaction with Muslim Communities44:13 Family and Personal Consequences51:34 Final Thoughts
123. The PROBLEM With Labour’s Illegal Immigration Plans
01:22:02||Season 1, Ep. 123Get a better way to stay informed at https://ground.news/winston and see through biased media. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access. Britain is at a breaking point, and on this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Rob Bates, founder of the Centre for Migration Control, for a forensic breakdown of Shabana Mahmood’s new asylum and immigration reforms.We dig into what these proposals really mean: from 20-year settlement routes, the so-called “jewellery clause,” and Labour’s attempt to reframe illegal Channel crossings as an acceptable path to refugee status to the ballooning cost of asylum hotels, the collapse of border enforcement, and how Britain ended up spending billions housing people the state has lost track of.Rob exposes the shocking scale of visa overstayers, the true size of the illegal migrant population, and why the small boats crisis is only the visible tip of a much larger system failure. We explore the data wars, crime figures, FOI revelations, nationality vs. country-of-birth disputes, and the politicised fight over who gets to define the truth.We also get into the deeper structural rot: the ECHR bottleneck, the Modern Slavery Act being gamed, human rights loopholes exploited by foreign offenders, and how gangs, trafficking networks, and the black-market economy have embedded themselves into Britain’s immigration system.All this, small boat crossings, overstayers, asylum hotels, the £16 billion bill, ECHR constraints, crime data controversies, and the political revolt inside Labour in a conversation cutting through the spin to what’s really happening at Britain’s borders.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
122. Allison Pearson - [BOMBSHELL] ‘Britain Is Granting Asylum To S*x Offenders'
01:30:57||Season 1, Ep. 122Get a better way to stay informed at https://ground.news/winston and see through biased media. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access. In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Allison Pearson, journalist and columnist at The Telegraph, for a revealing conversation about the collapse of Britain’s asylum system, media bias, and the cultural denial gripping the political class.Allison exposes how caseworkers are being forced to grant asylum to known sex offenders and violent men, including those on the sex offenders register, due to loopholes in Britain’s asylum laws. Drawing on her bombshell reporting, she explains how hundreds of thousands of illegal migrants have vanished into the system, how Home Office staff are incentivised to approve asylum claims without vetting, and how police and terror checks were suspended to meet political targets.We discuss the BBC’s censorship and bias, the moral blindness of Britain’s ruling elites, and what Allison calls the nation’s “suicidal empathy” — a refusal to protect its own people out of fear of being called racist. From asylum hotels and rising community tensions to the far-centrism of the establishment, this is an unflinching look at how Britain lost control of its borders and what it will take to reclaim them.Check out Allison’s podcast with Liam Halligan, Planet Normal here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJnf_DDTfIVC4Y-6d5MVBccDib2wsOhXa-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:56 Shocking Revelations from Allison’s investigation 03:49 Challenges in the Asylum System09:33 Automatic Asylum and Loopholes18:47 Historical Context and Broader Implications22:34 Impact on Rural Communities 43:22 Media Bias and the BBC 49:11 Far Centrism and Its Consequences 1:05:44 Allison’s Social Media “offence”1:08:07 Legal Action and Broader Implications1:20:02 Impact of Public Speech and Legal Consequences1:22:45 Multiculturalism and Its Impact on Free Speech1:26:26 Historical Context and Legal Responses1:27:39 Final Thoughts
121. Sophie Winkleman - The Digital Experiment on Our Kids and It’s Not Going To End Well...
01:10:03||Season 1, Ep. 121In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Lady Frederick Windsor, Sophie Winkleman, to discuss the dark side of smartphones, social media, and educational technology.Sophie, who went viral for her powerful speech at the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship, exposes how screens are rewiring children’s brains, destroying attention spans, and fuelling an epidemic of anxiety, self-harm, and gender confusion. From toddlers swiping before they can speak to schools replacing books with tablets, she warns that we are raising a generation addicted to dopamine and detached from reality.We explore how EdTech has infiltrated classrooms, how Big Tech is monetising childhood, and why governments and charities have failed to act. Sophie argues that “Big Tech in a school uniform” is not education; it is a billion-dollar experiment on our children.All this, from the smartphone crisis and the dangers of EdTech to the moral blindness of modern parenting, and why returning to books and real teachers may be the only way to save our children’s minds.The interview was recorded on: 23rd September 2025 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:33 Smartphone Effects 06:21 Gender Differences in Smartphone Impact13:36 The Issues and Radicalisation20:58 Early Exposure to Screens26:07 EdTech and Its Impact on Education49:52 Government and EdTech Regulation51:58 Social Media and Political Manipulation1:10:04 Impact of Digital Media on Children1:11:43 Final Thoughts
120. Father Benedict Kiely - The Global War on Christians: Genocide in Africa, Islamist Attacks, and a New Hope
01:15:46||Season 1, Ep. 120In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Father Benedict Kiely, founder of Nasarean.org and one of the world’s leading voices on the persecution of Christians.We discuss the genocide unfolding in Nigeria, where thousands of Christians are being murdered each year by Islamist militias while Western governments and media look away. Father Kiely exposes how the massacre of Christians is dismissed as “climate change” violence, a lie repeated by politicians and journalists unwilling to name Islamist extremism.From ISIS’s resurgence across Africa and the Middle East to the silent persecution of Christians in Iraq under Iranian-backed militias, Kiely lays bare a pattern of denial stretching from Abuja to Washington. He explains how Christianity faces extinction in its ancient homelands, the failure of the West’s moral leadership, and why Europe’s collapse of faith has left it powerless to confront evil.We also explore stories of hope, the revival of Christianity in post-communist Albania, the endurance of believers speaking Aramaic in Iraq, and why, despite centuries of persecution, faith refuses to die.All this: Nigeria’s genocide, Islamist expansion, the silence of the West, and the rebirth of Christianity where it was once crushed.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:18 Father Benedict Keeley's Role and Media Coverage02:54 Genocide in Nigeria and Media Bias08:41 Islamist Extremism Across Africa26:42 Situation in Syria and the Role of Al-Qaeda33:04 Christian Persecution in Sudan 40:08 Christian Persecution in Europe and the Role of the Media1:04:06 Challenges Faced by Christians in the UK1:11:59 Final Thoughts