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What we need is a monetary revolution not a payments revolution
This year marks the twentieth anniversary of the PayPal IPO. At the time, the failure of the conventional payments industry to respond to the epic potential of e-commerce on the Internet surprised even the more thoughtful bankers. Two decades later, that institutional inertia looks negligent rather than surprising. The loss of payments revenues by banks to technology companies represents a loss of shareholder value that far exceeds what the owners of banks lost in the financial crisis of 2007-08. With e-commerce continuing to grow, especially across borders, the frenzy created by the indifference of the banks continues. It is estimated that there are around 10,000 payment service providers (PSPs) of various sorts – acquirers, processors, facilitators, aggregators, gateways and digital wallet providers – now contending for pieces of the payments industry around the world. Yet the so-called revolution in payments amounts to no more than twin measures of the negligence of the banks: an increase in customer convenience that the banks should have provided plus a massive transfer of value from the owners of banks to the owners of technology companies. Every one of those 10,000 PSPs relies either on existing payments infrastructures or existing payments banks to provide a service. They are parasitic rather than transformational. A truly transformational innovation would dispense with the need for bank accounts altogether. It would also jettison the continuing reliance on the existing payments market infrastructures such as card networks, automated clearing houses and central bank-operated Real Time Gross Settlement systems (RTGSs) – what payments aficionados call “rails.” Lastly, a true innovation would undermine the current monopolies enjoyed by central banks over the issue of central bank money and banks over the issue of commercial bank money. Just such an innovation is now becoming visible in the crypto-currency and Decentralised Finance (DeFi) markets, which rely on software plus the Internet plus cryptography to enable anyone to issue digital money and anyone to use it to pay and get paid directly using digital wallets. These innovations have the potential to bypass the PSPs. They also have the potential to break the central bank and bank duopoly in the creation of money, allowing multiple forms of money to be issued and used to settle claims. New forms of money could fuse payments and monies into a single process in which money is indistinguishable from payment. Indeed, both payments and monies could be reduced to mere components of a single transactional process in which goods and services are bought and sold through exchanges of data that include the exchange of value. The value created by innovations of this kind will stem not from price or service but from the fact that the transactions they facilitate create data. If that data is owned not by the innovators but by their customers, it will have the power to overthrow more than the banks and the PSPs. It is certainly powerful enough to dislodge banks from their current roles in money creation through manufacturing credit, and in the selection of creditworthy borrowers. It may even be forceful enough to shift the balance of power in capitalism altogether, by making buyers more powerful than sellers.
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204. R3 Corda + Solana = Ethereum killer?
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203. It will take technology to humanise human resources
01:08:22||Season 1, Ep. 203Explore the paradox of using artificial intelligence (AI) to make better people decisions than managers can do on their own.What is the event about?Many corporations, especially in financial services, attribute much of their success to the quality of their talent, which might suggest that they would also credit the HR function with helping them to acquire, develop, motivate, and retain said talent. However, managers and employees instead often complain that HR is a large, growing and not particularly helpful function that creates policies and processes that interfere with corporations’ ability to effectively manage their talent. Whether justified or not, many managers fault HR for not adequately or appropriately leveraging technological advances for the benefit of both employees, managers, and shareholders. This event will explore how recent advances in AI can improve the efficiency and effectiveness of the HR function, reducing the resources it requires while also transforming the speed and quality of services it delivers.Who is on the panel?Todd Gershkowitz - Co-CEO at PaystandardsAnthony Poole - Partner, Human Capital at AONPavi Singh - Partner, UK & Ireland Leader HR and Talent Transformation Consulting at IBMEric Weinberg - VP Head of Executive and Equity Compensation at Prudential FinancialModerated by Dominic Hobson Co-Founder and Editorial Director at Future of Finance
202. GLEIF takes on the blockchain interoperability conundrum
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201. Digital depositary receipts mark fresh advance for tokenised financial assets
33:59||Season 1, Ep. 201A Future of Finance interview with Thorsten Peisl, Founder and Chief Executive at KALYP Technologies. In 2026 Kalyp Technologies celebrates the tenth anniversary of its foundation as a provider of blockchain infrastructure to the regulated capital markets. It is an ambition that has required patience as well as more obvious resources, since securing the regulatory endorsement on which institutional engagement depends is a lengthy process. But now the company has built an open financial market infrastructure of its own, the Digital Securities Depositary Corporation (DSDC), and is embarked on its first major initiative - making American Depositary Receipts (ADRs) available as Digital Depositary Receipts (DDRs). Future of Finance co-founder Dominic Hobson spoke to Thorsten Peisl, Founder and Chief Executive of Kalyp Technologies.
200. Future of Finance and Tokenovate Half Day Event - Panel 4: How are regulators adapting to accommodate blockchain-based solutions in securities financing and collateral management?
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199. Future of Finance and Tokenovate Half Day Event - Panel 3: How are public blockchains and smart contracts revolutionising financial processes?
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198. Future of Finance and Tokenovate Half Day Event - Panel 2: How can Tokenisation Unlock New Opportunities in Traditional Financing? What will the Future Look Like?
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197. Future of Finance and Tokenovate Half Day Event - Panel 1: How is blockchain reshaping liquidity and collateral flows in securities lending and repo?
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196. Digital Asset Exchange 2025 - Panel 5: What is the future of exchanges?
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