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What's going on up there?
What Is Interval Talking?
Do we talk too much?
New research suggests we may be communicating less effectively than we think - and it comes down to how much we talk.
In this episode of What's going on up there?, Grace is joined by Professor Binna Kandola OBE to look at a new Scandinavian research idea called Cyclic Verbal Load Modulation. Or, more simply, Interval Talking.
Could the number of words we speak each day affect fatigue?
They discuss the evolution of language and how it has shaped the way we communicate today, before diving into the research into CVLM and what the research tells us about its benefits. Binna also shares practical steps you can take to increase efficiency in your own communication.
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The study appears in Applied Psychological Research in Language (APRIL) and was conducted by the Franz Olaf Olsen Laboratory (FOOL) in Oslo.
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