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Can you even get a Mpox vaccine? We travel around the UK to find out

Season 1, Ep. 8

I haven’t had one. Some people have - but with a limited supply left, just who can get a vaccine?


Medical professionals are under the assumption that I currently don’t need a vaccine as they think I probably have some immunity.


But we don’t know how long that will last. I’m nervous about if and what immunity I have and how long it will last. I can’t imagine having to go through all of this again.


And what about the folks that haven’t had Mpox (monkeypox)? How easy is it to get a vaccine? And what about those like me that went through this, was their experience any better? Today, we’re travelling around the UK to find out.


Because if you want to hear about access to the vaccine, then we need to speak to the folks that have tried, succeeded or failed to get hold of one to find out what the pox is going on?


This week's guests:

  • Harun Talunay - Sexual health expert with lived experience of monkeypox
  • Topher Taylor - Award winning pleasure expert and queer columnist
  • Conor Macis - PHD student and Uni of Bristol teacher who shares his monkeypox journey
  • Dan Ellis - Director and actor


Listen to understand:

  • What parts of the UK have better access to monkeypox vaccines
  • Why care is different depending on where you live
  • How soon after having monkeypox can you be more confident that you don't pass it on via sex


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