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Dervilla McGowan | Craft distiller – how she made the leap from academia to award-winning gin maker
Dervilla McGowan had always loved science, ever since she was a kid. She went on to study microbiology at uni and even completed a PhD.
But at the end of her studies, she realised a career in academia wasn’t for her… and instead she wanted to use her scientific skills to make craft gin!
Derv and her hubby launched Anther in 2016, an award-winning gin brand that celebrates Australian botanicals and employs mostly women. More recently, they built their own distillery and bar at the historic woollen mills in North Geelong.
Derv is now a leader in Australia’s craft distillation industry and is passionate about supporting and empowering more women to join her.
In this episode, Derv chats with host Jacqui Ooi about:
· What drew her to study science and why she eventually gave it up
· How her early days as a bartender in London developed her palate and interest in spirits
· The process of making a career change in her 40s and starting a business with no formal training
· Why she loves making gin and championing women in the distillation industry
· Her best tips and recommendations for aspiring career changers and business owners
For more inspiring career change stories, tips and resources, sign up to our newsletter: https://whatshedidnext.com.au/
DERV’S RECOMMENDATIONS
Read, listen or watch:
Brené Brown https://brenebrown.com/
Inspired by:
Marie Curie
Brittany Higgins
Grace Tame
CONNECT WITH DERV
Visit her website: https://www.anther.com.au/
CREDITS
Host and producer: Jacqui Ooi
Associate producer: Catherine Cavill
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What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past, present and emerging.
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37:21||Season 5, Ep. 49What do you do when your dream career suddenly loses its shine? Do you give it up for something new – or change the way you’re doing it? If anyone had a dream career, it was Nina Karnikowski. As a travel writer at the Sydney Morning Herald, and later going freelance, she was off on adventurous travels a dozen times a year. But in 2019, she went on a trip that would change her forever, coming face to face with the devastating impacts of climate change and leaving her questioning her lifestyle and career choices. Returning home from that trip, she started saying no to the travel assignments coming her way, and threw herself into learning everything she could about how to live and travel more sustainably. Nina has since reshaped her career to become a voice for sustainable travel – writing books, doing speaking gigs and leading mindful travel expeditions. In this episode, Nina talks about what it took to make that shift happen and how 'leading with purpose' in her career decisions has opened up a whole new world of opportunities. If you've been questioning your career and whether it fits with your values, you'll love this conversation. And if you're looking for more purpose and joy in your career, Nina has some great tips for you! Nina’s memoir The Mindful Traveller is out now. CONNECT WITH NINA Visit her website: ninakarnikowski.com Follow her on Instagram: instagram.com/nina_karnikowski CONNECT WITH US Interested to make a career change of your own? Sign up to our newsletter or check out our new online courses at whatshedidnext.com.au Join us on Instagram: instagram.com/whatshedidnextpodcastFacebook: facebook.com/whatshedidnextpodcastLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/what-she-did-next-podcast CREDITS Creator, host and producer: Jacqui OoiAudio production: Browntree Productions What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.48. A sneak peek inside our Career Change Kickstarter course
03:40||Season 5, Ep. 48Are you at a career crossroads and thinking about ‘what’s next’ for you? Then you’ll want to dive into this mini episode, to find out how our Career Change Kickstarter course can help you! If you’re feeling the niggle (or roar) of needing a change, but you’re not sure what you want to do next or what steps to take, this course is for you. Applications are now open for our April program (get in quick!). Join the waitlist on the ‘Our courses’ page at whatshedidnext.com.au to receive the course info. CONNECT WITH US Join us on Instagram: instagram.com/whatshedidnextpodcastFacebook: facebook.com/whatshedidnextpodcastLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/what-she-did-next-podcast CREDITS Creator, host and producer: Jacqui Ooi What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.47. Kris McKee | In bloom – how she stepped away from nursing to fulfil her creative dreams
33:31||Season 5, Ep. 47Have you always dreamed of doing something creative? But you’re not sure how to turn that into a career? For Kris McKee, her early creative interests fell by the wayside as she pursued a more stable career in nursing. Being a nurse opened up opportunities to travel and live in London, and over 20 years, she worked her way up in a very specialised field. Despite her success, there was always a sense that something was missing… but she was worried it was too late to make a change. When COVID struck, it was the push Kris needed to embark on a new career path, exploring her creative talents and discovering joy in working with flowers. Now she runs her own business, creating beautiful and sustainable floral designs for weddings and events – gradually stepping away from her nursing career as the business grows. In this episode, Kris talks about the process of unravelling herself from nursing and finally learning to be ok with prioritising her own happiness and wellbeing. If you’ve been struggling to give yourself permission to make a change in your career, you’ll love Kris’s story. And if you’ve ever considered a move into floristry, she has some great tips for you! CONNECT WITH KRIS Visit her website: krismckeefloraldesign.com Follow her on Instagram: instagram.com/kris.floraldesign CONNECT WITH US Interested to make a career change of your own? Sign up to our newsletter or check out our new online courses at whatshedidnext.com.au Join us on Instagram: instagram.com/whatshedidnextpodcastFacebook: facebook.com/whatshedidnextpodcastLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/what-she-did-next-podcast CREDITS Creator, host and producer: Jacqui OoiProduction support: Perk Digital What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.46. Malini Raj | Making an impact – how she reshaped her corporate career to be a voice for change
33:37||Season 5, Ep. 46Do you want to make a difference in the world without leaving your corporate career? Are you passionate about using your skills for good? This has been a driver for Malini Raj throughout her working life, as she’s built a successful career in financial services. Malini started out on a more traditional path in investment banking. But she soon discovered a passion for working with people and creating positive change… which steered her into the social impact space. Today Malini has a multifaceted career, working as Head of Community Engagement at a large bank and lending her skills to an array of not-for-profit boards. She’s also a passionate advocate for diversity and inclusion, not to mention a long-time volunteer. In this episode, Malini talks about how she reshaped her corporate career to align with her values and be a voice for change – through a series of career transitions, rather than a big leap. If you’re wanting a more purposeful career or curious about stepping into a board role, you’ll love this conversation. CONNECT WITH MALINI Follow her on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/malini-raj CONNECT WITH US Interested to make a career change of your own? Sign up to our newsletter or check out our new online courses at whatshedidnext.com.au Join us on Instagram: instagram.com/whatshedidnextpodcastFacebook: facebook.com/whatshedidnextpodcastLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/what-she-did-next-podcast CREDITS Creator, host and producer: Jacqui OoiProduction support: Perk Digital What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.45. Steph Jacobs | Working with kids – how she found her happy place in the world of early childhood
28:32||Season 5, Ep. 45Have you been rethinking your career after becoming a mum? Do you want to explore what else could be out there for you? For Steph Jacobs, the transition to motherhood was a real turning point in her career… and after having two sons of her own, she became fascinated by the world of early childhood. It was a big leap from her previous career, working in HR, but the more she explored, the more her interest grew. Steph ended up retraining while her youngest was still in preschool and returned to work in 2018, as an early childhood educator. She’s since gone on to discover a deep passion for working with neurodivergent children and has recently taken a new role in the early intervention space. In this episode, Steph talks about the steps she took to navigate her career transition and what she's learned about the career change process that could help other women. If you’re rethinking your career or interested in exploring the early childhood sector, you’ll love this conversation. STEPH’S RECOMMENDATIONS Visit the Early Childhood Australia website: earlychildhoodaustralia.org.auFind out more about Necessity Kids: necessitykids.com.au CONNECT WITH US Interested to make a career change of your own? Sign up to our newsletter or check out our new online courses at whatshedidnext.com.au Join us on Instagram: instagram.com/whatshedidnextpodcastFacebook: facebook.com/whatshedidnextpodcastLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/what-she-did-next-podcast CREDITS Creator, host and producer: Jacqui OoiProduction support: Perk Digital What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.44. Anna-Liza Mopio-Jane | Life after sport – how she made the leap to the mental health field
27:20||Season 5, Ep. 44Are you in a career that has an expiry date? And soon, you’ll have to figure out ‘what’s next’ for you? This was the case for Anna-Liza Mopio-Jane, who started out as an athlete in the world of swimming, going all the way to the Beijing Olympics representing Papua New Guinea. But after more than 12 years competing internationally, she retired from the sport in 2015… and has retrained as an accredited counsellor. Now running her own practice in Brisbane, she’s using her new skills to give back to the sporting world and support her fellow athletes. In this episode, Anna-Liza talks about how she made her career change into counselling and her best tips for others who might be thinking about a similar move. She also talks about the other role that’s keeping her busy right now, as a guest presenter on ABC TV’s That Pacific Sports Show. If you’re figuring out your next career move (or a fan of women’s sport!), you’ll love this conversation. CONNECT WITH ANNA-LIZA Visit her website: annalizamopiojane.comFollow her on Instagram: instagram.com/annalizamopiojaneFollow her on YouTube: youtube.com/@Anna-LizaMopio-Jane CONNECT WITH US Interested to make a career change of your own? Sign up to our newsletter or check out our new online courses at whatshedidnext.com.au Join us on Instagram: instagram.com/whatshedidnextpodcastFacebook: facebook.com/whatshedidnextpodcastLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/what-she-did-next-podcast CREDITS Creator, host and producer: Jacqui OoiProduction support: Perk Digital What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.43. Melissa Di Marco | Tea master – how she took brave steps to build an inspiring business
33:06||Season 5, Ep. 43Have you fallen out of love with a career that once inspired you? Do you want to feel that spark of excitement in your work life again? This is where Melissa Di Marco found herself after 12 years in the hairdressing industry, but she didn’t know what else she could do. Putting her CV out into the world, she hit a raft of rejections – but she did land a job in a tea shop. Being introduced to the world of tea opened up a whole new interest for her and she has since become a certified tea master and tea blender. Today, Mel is the founder and creative force behind TeaEsk, an award-winning tea brand that prides itself on being ethically made and sustainably packaged. From starting out in her home kitchen, she now has nearly 100 stockists across Australia and a successful online store – and she recently took the big step of opening her first shopfront. In this episode, Mel talks about how she navigated such a big career transition and what it’s taken to make her mark in an industry that was completely new to her. If you're looking for career change tips and business inspiration, you will love this conversation! CONNECT WITH MEL Visit her website: www.teaesk.com.auFollow her on Instagram: www.instagram.com/teaesk CONNECT WITH US Interested to make a career change of your own? Sign up to our newsletter or check out our new online courses at whatshedidnext.com.au Join us on Instagram: www.instagram.com/whatshedidnextpodcastFacebook: www.facebook.com/whatshedidnextpodcastLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/what-she-did-next-podcast CREDITS Creator, host and producer: Jacqui OoiProduction support: Perk Digital What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.42. Evie Farrell | Finding freedom – how she created a life and career of travel with her daughter
34:02||Season 5, Ep. 42Do you love the idea of packing up your life to go travelling? Just stepping off the daily treadmill and seeing where it takes you? That’s exactly what Evie Farrell did back in 2016 and her travel buddy was her young daughter, Emmie. As a solo mum, Evie had been struggling to balance her busy corporate career with spending enough time with Emmie and she decided an overseas adventure together was the answer. But what was intended to be a year-long trip away, exploring Asia, has turned into a whole new way of living and working. Gaining a huge following on her Instagram account, Mumpack Travel, a raft of unexpected opportunities came her way. And now Evie runs her own travel company called Mumpack Trips, providing fun and thoughtful travel experiences for women, and for mums and kids, in some of her favourite countries like Vietnam, Cambodia and Malaysia. In this episode, Evie talks about how she created this life and career of travel for herself – and her best career change tips for other women. If you love to travel or are simply feeling the need for a different kind work life, you will love this conversation. CONNECT WITH EVIE Visit her website: mumpacktravel.com or mumpacktrips.com.auFollow her on Instagram: www.instagram.com/mumpacktravel or www.instagram.com/mumpacktrips CONNECT WITH US Interested to make a career change of your own? Sign up to our newsletter or check out our new online courses at whatshedidnext.com.au Join us on Instagram: www.instagram.com/whatshedidnextpodcastFacebook: www.facebook.com/whatshedidnextpodcastLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/what-she-did-next-podcast CREDITS Creator, host and producer: Jacqui OoiProduction support: Perk Digital What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.41. We’re back! Season 5 is here
01:39||Season 5, Ep. 41Are you thinking about making a career change? But you’re not sure ‘what’s next’ for you? Join host Jacqui Ooi for Season 5 of What She Did Next, as she chats with women across Australia who’ve changed up their careers in all sorts of interesting ways – to create more freedom and flexibility, explore their creative interests and do work that feels more meaningful. Whether you want to redesign your career in some way or completely change industries, these stories are for you. We hope you hear something in these conversations that inspires your next move. Season 5 will drop on Wed 2 August, with new episodes released fortnightly. CONNECT WITH US Sign up to our newsletter or check out our new online courses at https://whatshedidnext.com.au/ Join us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatshedidnextpodcast/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/whatshedidnextpodcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/what-she-did-next-podcast CREDITS Creator, host and producer: Jacqui OoiProduction support: Perk Digital What She Did Next acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the Land on which this podcast is made, the Wodi Wodi people of the Dharawal nation. We pay our respects to their Elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.