We're Not Wrong

A week after the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk, Justin, Jen, and Heaton gather to discuss their feeling surrounding both the act itself and the responses from politicians and civilians left and right. After a very brief second topic on protein — one not even long enough to really earn a spot in the title of this episode — the crew, as always, responds to listener emails.Chapters:00:00:00 - Intro00:10:54 - Charlie Kirk01:39:48 - Protein (briefly)01:53:10 - Emails02:08:16 - Wrap-up

Justin, Jen, and Heaton discuss the legacy of Todd Cochrane, a pioneering podcaster who recently passed away, before pivoting to discussing Girl Scout cookies as the enterprise prepares to launch a new flavor. This episode also contains initial reactions to the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk.Chapters:00:00 - Intro and Todd Cochrane10:10 - Emails16:33 - Girl Scout Cookies34:17 - Charlie Kirk

The gang discusses the recent adjustment to job numbers in the US, which saw nearly 1,000,000 fewer jobs than previously thought over the waning days of the Biden administration and the earliest days of Trump's second time in office. Are these numbers to be trusted, and does this match up closer with how the economy feels rather than how we're told it's performing? The crew also debate Senate Republicans' decision to initiate a nuclear option to approve Trump appointees with a simple majority. Is it necessary to keep government functioning, or will the GOP regret these actions?Chapters:00:00:00 - Intro00:16:47 - BLS00:45:53 - Republican Nuclear Option01:26:39 - Emails02:11:28 - Wrap-up

The gang discusses Trump's brief disappearance from the public eye over the holiday weekend, causing the hashtag #TrumpIsDead to go viral across social media. Spurred on by recurring bruises on his hands and swollen ankles — not to mention a Vance quote — Justin, Jen, and Heaton ask where this reaction came from. Then, the trio turns to discuss the ongoing housing crisis in the US, with Scott Bessent telling reports Trump could declare a housing emergency in the coming weeks. How many times can Heaton say "zoning" in a single segment? You'll have to listen to find out.Chapters:00:00:00 - Intro00:19:13 - Trump Didn't Die01:01:34 - Housing Emergency01:38:17 - Emails02:00:00 - Wrap-up

Justin, Jen, and Heaton break down Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick’s proposal that the U.S. government take equity stakes in defense contractors. It's a plan criticized as creeping socialism by Republicans but framed by Lutnick as fair compensation for taxpayer investment. They also tackle the backlash to Cracker Barrel’s (now former) new logo, which abandoned its traditional imagery in favor of a minimal, modern design. From Trump’s mocking to bipartisan confusion online, the panel explores why even subtle branding tweaks can trigger culture war blowback.Chapters:00:00:00 - Intro and Taylor Swift00:21:41 - Defense Companies00:53:05 - Cracker Barrel01:21:11 - Emails01:33:35 - Wrap-up

The gang breaks down Taylor Swift’s headline-grabbing New Heights podcast appearance, which shattered viewership records and marked her first extended on-air discussion of her relationship with Travis Kelce. They explore the cultural impact of Swift’s crossover into NFL territory and the surreal response from James Comey, whose viral video praising the episode led to a MAGA backlash. Then they dig into MSNBC’s awkward rebrand to “MS NOW,” a move mocked across social media for its clunky name and loss of the iconic peacock, and question whether the network will survive the decade.Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:17:45 - Taylor Swift01:00:48 - MS NOW01:25:58 - Emails01:50:19 - Wrap-up

Andrew Heaton, Jen Briney, and Justin Young as they dive into a lively discussion on the complexities of political identity, the impact of federal intervention in cities, and the nuances of libertarianism. Trump takes over the DC police, is that legal? If so, will it be effective? Also, are kids spending too much on dumb stuff? Is that a recession signal?Introduction and Opening Remarks - [0:00]Discussion on Federal Intervention in Cities - [15:30]Libertarianism and Political Identity - [35:45]Personal Anecdotes and Experiences - [50:10]Listener Emails and Responses - [1:10:25]Closing Thoughts and Wrap-Up - [1:30:00]

With Heaton out on vacation, Jeremiah Johnson — from Infinite Scroll and the Center for New Liberalism — joins the panel as they cover the House’s sweeping subpoenas of Bill and Hillary Clinton, along with a host of former DOJ officials, in its expanding Epstein probe. They debate whether any outcome can satisfy the public’s bipartisan appetite for answers. Then, they break down Trump’s controversial firing of the Bureau of Labor Statistics chief, raising alarms about politicizing economic data and the possible fallout for investor trust.Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:11:18 - Clinton Subpoena and Epstein00:42:18 - Trump Firing BLS Secretary01:05:49 - Emails01:52:24 - Wrap-up

The gang tackles the EPA’s decision to revoke the “endangerment finding,” a foundational ruling that enabled greenhouse gas regulations since 2009. Framed by Administrator Lee Zeldin as the biggest deregulatory move in U.S. history, the move sparks fierce debate over climate science, legal precedent, and the limits of executive power. Then, they reflect on the symbolic end of the 1980s, marked by the deaths of Hulk Hogan, Ozzy Osbourne, and Malcolm-Jamal Warner — a trio whose cultural footprints defined an era now definitively closed.Chapters00:00:00 - Introduction00:16:04 - Texas Redistricting00:25:39 - EPA00:57:20 - The Week The 80s Died01:28:27 - Emails01:47:29 - Wrap-up