Share

cover art for About the TikTok ban and Boeing

We're Not Wrong

About the TikTok ban and Boeing

The gang discuss the challenges and controversies surrounding TikTok's ownership and the potential impact on national security. Jen, Justin and Heaton explore concerns about the potential control of platforms by Donald Trump and the dangers of giving the president the ability to cancel media outlets. The broad scope of the bill and its implications for any website or app owned by ByteDance are discussed. The potential fines for Apple, Google, and Oracle are highlighted, as well as the expansion of the bill beyond TikTok. The importance of the algorithm and the fear of losing control over American culture are examined.

The conversation also delves into the manufacturing problems faced by Boeing. The conversation discusses safety concerns with Boeing planes, including the changes in Boeing's operations and the challenges in fixing the problems.


Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Volleyball Bar

00:29 Coach Gordon Bombay and Dancing

01:06 Congressional Resignations

02:08 Continuing Resolutions and Omnibus Bills

03:06 RFK Jr. and Regulatory Capture

04:03 RFK Jr.'s Candidacy

05:01 Andrew Heaton Sports Question of the Week

05:41 RFK Jr.'s VP Candidacy Rumors

06:21 No Labels and Potential VP Candidates

07:46 TikTok Facing Ban in the US

08:25 CFIUS and TikTok's Future

09:20 RFK Jr.'s Presidential Campaign

10:12 No Labels and RFK Jr.'s VP Nomination

11:03 Bipartisan Support for RFK Jr.

12:01 Rebuttal Speeches

13:21 State of the Union Address

14:16 Impressions of Biden's Speech

15:05 Biden's Slurring and Heckling in Congress

16:30 Bipartisan Cheering and Reactions to Biden's Speech

19:55 Rebuttal Speeches and Political Tactics

22:25 TikTok's Legislation and Support

24:41 TikTok's Challenge in America

26:31 CFIUS and TikTok's Future

29:46 Concerns and Divestment of TikTok

33:18 Concerns about Trump's control over platforms

44:19 Fear of losing control over American culture

45:16 The origin point of media narratives

46:24 The influence of TikTok on national news

48:57 The timing of information from TikTok

49:57 TikTok as the origin point of media narratives

50:38 The influence of digital platforms on news

52:02 The need for credible evidence and whistleblowers

55:19 Transparency in algorithms

56:13 The danger of giving the executive branch power

58:35 Potential impact on Gen Z and parents

01:00:17 The danger of expanding executive power

01:03:09 The need for credible evidence from CFIUS

01:04:48 Potential market effects and whistleblower impact

01:06:12 Boeing's manufacturing problems

01:08:02 Safety concerns with Boeing

01:09:28 Changes in Boeing's operations

01:10:49 Monopoly issues and shareholder concerns

01:11:48 Challenges in fixing the problems

01:12:18 Issues with air traffic controllers and inspectors

01:13:13 Concerns from a pilot's perspective

01:13:41 Cover-up allegations and whistleblower

01:15:30 Regulation and accountability for Boeing

01:16:48 Nationalization or splitting up Boeing

01:17:17 The lack of a free market in the aerospace industry

01:18:41 The need for regulation and oversight

01:20:34 The safety of air travel and alternative transportation

01:26:49 Regulating congressional stock trading

More episodes

View all episodes

  • About the Brown University Shooting and Susie Wiles

    01:25:09|
    The gang discusses the ongoing manhunt following the deadly shooting at Brown University, where two students were killed and the suspect remains at large days later. With limited footage and mounting public anxiety, they ask how long it takes before a failure to make an arrest becomes alarming. Then, they turn to Vanity Fair’s revealing profile of Trump chief of staff Susie Wiles, unpacking her candid admissions about internal chaos, hardline policies, and her role as an enforcer rather than a moderating force inside the administration.Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:15:26 - Brown University00:38:16 - Susie Wiles00:55:10 - Emails01:18:38 - Wrap-up
  • About the January 6th Pipe Bomber Arrest and AI Misogyny

    01:54:12|
    The gang breaks down the arrest of Brian J. Cole Jr., the man charged with planting pipe bombs outside the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before January 6. After years of stalled leads, investigators linked him through surveillance, cell data and component purchases, raising new questions about motive and timing. Then the gang turns to a new study showing people are more likely to exploit AI when it is labeled female. They dig into what this means for how companies design AI systems and how human gender bias gets projected onto machines.Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:18:31 - January 6th Pipe Bomber00:39:11 - National Security Strategy Thoughts00:52:03 - The Wildest Krampus Tangent You'll Ever Hear01:02:59 - AI Misogyny01:18:02 - Emails01:47:20 - Wrap-up
  • About the Second Boat Strike and Ireland's Drinking Warnings

    01:28:24|
    The gang digs into the explosive report that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth allegedly ordered troops to "kill everyone" aboard a suspected narco-trafficking boat in the Caribbean. After a second missile strike killed survivors clinging to the wreckage, lawmakers are calling the incident a possible war crime and demanding answers. Then they turn to Ireland’s new alcohol warning labels, which link drinking to cancer, liver disease, and risks during pregnancy. With adoption delayed until 2028 and binge drinking still high among young adults, the crew debates whether these labels will change anything.Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:14:04 - Second Boat Strike00:47:02 - Ireland's Drinking Warnings01:05:19 - Emails01:23:42 - Wrap-up
  • About Rush Hour 4 and Thanksgiving Travel Laws

    01:15:43|
    The gang breaks down the revival of Rush Hour 4, a project brought back to life after President Trump reportedly lobbied Paramount’s top shareholder to greenlight Brett Ratner’s return to the franchise. With Ratner facing years of misconduct allegations and Trump reshaping Hollywood through friendly creatives, the trio asks what this says about Trump's pressure on companies. Then they turn to Thanksgiving travel, questioning whether the busiest travel weekend in America should have its own federal rules as airports, highways, and rail systems buckle each year under the holiday surge.Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:10:12 - Rush Hour 400:34:21 - Thanksgiving Travel Laws00:52:35 - Emails01:07:07 - Wrap-up
  • About Epstein and the End of Shrinkflation

    01:41:51|
    The gang digs into the House’s overwhelming vote to force the public release of the Epstein files, a fight that spiraled into a rare bipartisan stampede after a discharge petition backed leadership into a corner. With Trump’s behind the scenes pressure campaign failing to stop the momentum, the bill sailed through and now heads to the Senate. Then the group turns to shrinkflation, using Panera’s new turnaround plan to ask whether companies are finally reversing years of portion cuts and ingredient downgrades.Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:09:39 - Epstein00:53:30 - End of Shrinkflation01:11:53 - Emails01:37:23 - Wrap-up
  • About the Shutdown's End and the Climate Change Movement

    01:30:39|
    The gang reacts to the end of the longest federal shutdown in American history, as Senate Democrats face backlash for a deal that included funding extensions and back pay, but not their key health care priorities. Did they cave, or is this just how governance works now? Then, they turn to the state of the climate change movement, with Bill Gates calling for a strategic pivot just as GM abandons some of its electric truck plans. Is the momentum fading, or is this sort of pivot needed?Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:05:13 - Shutdown00:42:06 - Climate Change Movement01:05:08 - Emails01:27:37 - Wrap-up
  • About Mamdani's NYC and Dick Cheney

    01:22:08|
    The gang reacts to a seismic political shift in New York City as Zohran Mamdani is elected mayor, defeating Andrew Cuomo and promising sweeping changes across housing, transit, and childcare. His Democratic Socialist platform has progressives cheering—and business leaders warning — how big of a deal is this? Then, the death of former Vice President Dick Cheney sparks a conversation about his towering influence over American foreign policy, the post-9/11 era, and the modern Republican Party.Chapters00:00:00 - Intro and Shutdown Talk00:24:08 - Mamdani's NYC00:54:40 - Dick Cheney01:10:35 - Emails01:12:52 - More Mamdani Talk01:18:27 - Wrap-up
  • About Argentina and George Santos

    01:41:47|
    In this 2023-throwback episode, the gang talks through Javier Milei's victory in Argentina. His La Libertad Avanza party secured more than 40 percent of the national vote following two years of austerity politics. Is this a sign that things are turning around in the South American country? Then our attention turns to George Santos, who recently had his seven-year sentence commuted, alongside all other fines and penalties. While the conviction remains on Santos' record, is this a miscarriage of justice?Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:04:14 - Shutdown Update00:23:37 - Argentina00:47:15 - George Santos01:08:04 - Emails01:33:01 - Wrap-up
  • About Graham Platner and Amazon's Robots

    01:44:54|
    The gang breaks down the controversy surrounding Graham Platner, a former Marine-turned-Democratic Senate candidate from Maine who admitted to receiving a chest tattoo in 2007 that appears to replicate Nazi symbolism. Justin, Jen, and Heaton discuss whether Platner actually is a Nazi, alongside the fate of his current campaign. Then, the crew breaks down Amazon's planned roadmap to replace more than half a million US workers with robots by 2033, all to shave off about 30 cents per item shipped. Is this a step towards improving working conditions at Amazon, or the end of an economic lifeline?Chapters00:00:00 - Intro00:10:46 - Graham Platner00:48:50 - Amazon's Robots01:02:35 - Emails01:30:18 - Wrap-up