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The gang breaks down Taylor Swift’s headline-grabbing New Heights podcast appearance, which shattered viewership records and marked her first extended on-air discussion of her relationship with Travis Kelce. They explore the cultural impact of Swift’s crossover into NFL territory and the surreal response from James Comey, whose viral video praising the episode led to a MAGA backlash. Then they dig into MSNBC’s awkward rebrand to “MS NOW,” a move mocked across social media for its clunky name and loss of the iconic peacock, and question whether the network will survive the decade.
Chapters
00:00:00 - Intro
00:17:45 - Taylor Swift
01:00:48 - MS NOW
01:25:58 - Emails
01:50:19 - Wrap-up
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