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10: Old Friends, New Religions, and Referees with Gary Goodson

Season 1
Lucas talks to long-time friend Gary Goodson about the hard conversations they've had over the years and doctrines for their new religion. Gary is the first person to have to be censored on the show to keep it family-friendly!
Show Notes

The New Atheists – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism
The Believing Brain by Michael Shermer – https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9754534-the-believing-brain
Phil Plait – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Plait
Skeptics Guide to the Universe Podcast – https://www.theskepticsguide.org/
Cognitive Biases – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
Against the Rules with Michael Lewis – https://atrpodcast.com/




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