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Generative AI and the future with Martin Musiol
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Martin Musiol is the founder of Generativeai.net, an online learning platforms that teaches data scientists and others about generative AI. Martin joins me to chat about his experience and the value of generative AI for businesses.
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Gaining clarity in conversational AI live from Boost Camp
31:32|In this special episode, recorded live at Boost Camp, we have three industry leaders who are shaping the future of conversational AI: Ben Maxim, CTO at Michigan State University Federal Credit Union (MSUFCU), Åse Marthinsen, who leads generative AI at Norway’s largest bank, DNB and Nick Mitchell, Chief Revenue Officer at boost.ai.We cover the ever-changing landscape of conversational AI, including aligning teams, integrating data across channels and designing experiences that are on brand and human-centric.We look at how organisations are managing thousands of conversational intents with lean teams, thanks to hybrid AI models and smarter content workflows. There’s a growing focus on data governance and trust, especially in highly regulated industries like banking. But DNB and MSUFCU show that you can scale responsibly, with MSUFCU’s chatbot Fran now handling 79% of customer chats without escalation.As AI gets faster, so do the expectations from customers and leadership. We talk about the shifting role of contact centres from answering FAQs to driving strategic initiatives and the importance of staying ahead through continuous testing, experimentation and AI-driven insights.Shownotes: Check out boost.ai: https://boost.ai/Subscribe to VUX World: https://vuxworld.typeform.com/to/Qlo5aaeWSubscribe to The AI Ultimatum Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/kanesimmsGet in touch with Kane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kanesimmsHow True Classic tailored AI for customer experience with Jordan Gesky
51:50|In this episode, we explore how True Classic, a men's apparel brand, is leveraging AI to transform its customer support with Jordan Gesky, Senior Customer Experience Manager.We look at True Classic’s journey from rule-based automation to generative AI across multiple channels. Jordan talks about how their AI assistant, Crue, now handles customer service inquiries through chat, email and phone channels and how that’s reduced costs and time to resolve.We get into the practicalities of AI in customer service, including continuous auditing, clear guidelines and giving AI a brand voice. Jordan explains how True Classic trains their AI using agent conversations and FAQs and how they integrate it with their Shopify account, returns portal and product catalogue to create a self-service solution.We also talk about the challenges of AI implementation, from hallucinations to customer data security and how True Classic approaches AI governance through transcript reviews and CSAT monitoring.Shownotes: Subscribe to VUX World: https://vuxworld.typeform.com/to/Qlo5aaeWSubscribe to The AI Ultimatum Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/kanesimmsGet in touch with Kane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kanesimmsAI vs BPO: Foundever's transformative journey with Guillaume Laporte
58:53|In this episode, we talk to Guillaume Laporte, Chief AI Officer at Foundever - a $4 billion BPO giant with 150,000 employees worldwide. Guillaume explains the massive impact of generative AI on the BPO industry, why it’s the biggest threat and the biggest opportunity for contact centres today.From deciding whether to buy, build or partner on AI solutions to navigating multiple client systems and languages, Guillaume shares how Foundever is transforming its workforce with AI-powered tools like EverAssist. Guillaume also explains why Foundever built its own internal version of ChatGPT rather than licensing OpenAI’s solution, saving millions of dollars a year while retaining control over features, latency and performance.Find out how Foundever has been tackling challenges like the AI adoption gap, balancing cost, speed and accuracy in AI models and using talent to scale solutions globally.If you want to know how generative AI is being used in a complex, multilingual, multi-client environment, this episode has the answers. Whether you’re in BPO or exploring enterprise AI, Guillaume’s honest insights are valuable for any organisation looking to stay ahead in the AI age.Shownotes: Find out more about Foundever: https://foundever.comThe voice dictation tool recommended by Guillaume: https://wisprflow.aiSubscribe to VUX World: https://vuxworld.typeform.com/to/Qlo5aaeWSubscribe to The AI Ultimatum Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/kanesimmsGet in touch with Kane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kanesimmsDesigning for generative AI: The UX evolution at Prudential with Alex Shin
44:51|Generative AI has changed everything - from how we build to how we design. In this episode, we’re joined by Alex Shin, Senior Product Designer at Prudential Financial, to talk about how UX is evolving in the age of LLMs.Alex shares his journey from studying Social Policy to UX and conversation design, including how he helped launch Prudential’s first customer-facing chatbot in 2022.We talk about how Prudential’s NLU-based chatbot is consistently getting customer satisfaction scores above industry standards and how the company is exploring generative AI solutions for both internal and customer-facing services.We also dive into the collaboration between design and tech teams at Prudential, and how this partnership ensures solutions are technically feasible while prioritising user needs. This episode is for designers navigating the transition to generative AI, tech leaders trying to balance innovation with user experience and anyone interested in how big financial institutions are using AI to improve customer service.This episode is brought to you by NLX.NLX is a conversational AI platform enabling brands to build and manage chat, voice and multimodal applications. NLX’s patented Voice+ technology synchronizes voice with digital channels, making it possible to automate complex use cases typically handled by a human agent. When a customer calls, the voice AI guides them to resolve their inquiry through self-service using the brand’s digital asset, resulting in automation and CSAT scores well above industry average. Just ask United Airlines.Shownotes: Subscribe to VUX World: https://vuxworld.typeform.com/to/Qlo5aaeWSubscribe to The AI Ultimatum Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/kanesimmsGet in touch with Kane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kanesimms/The mid-market’s AI agent advantage with Braden Ream, Voiceflow
51:09|What if the most exciting AI agent innovation isn’t happening in the enterprise, but in the mid-market?In this episode, we unpack Voiceflow’s explosive growth, the shift from flowcharts to frameworks, and why success today isn’t about having the smartest model, but about how you deploy it.We explore how to build reliable, production-grade agents, the rise of self-improving systems, and the emergence of agent-to-agent orchestration.And while mid-market companies are moving fast, Braden explains why enterprise adoption is inevitable, and what it’ll take to reach that tipping point.Congratulations to Braden on making his fourth appearance on the VUX World podcast!This episode is brought to you by NLX.NLX is a conversational AI platform enabling brands to build and manage chat, voice and multimodal applications. NLX’s patented Voice+ technology synchronizes voice with digital channels, making it possible to automate complex use cases typically handled by a human agent. When a customer calls, the voice AI guides them to resolve their inquiry through self-service using the brand’s digital asset, resulting in automation and CSAT scores well above industry average. Just ask United Airlines.Shownotes: Discover Voiceflow: https://www.voiceflow.com/Subscribe to VUX World: https://vuxworld.typeform.com/to/Qlo5aaeWSubscribe to The AI Ultimatum Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/kanesimmsGet in touch with Kane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kanesimms/The mad genius of using LLMs as classifiers with Katherine Munro, Swisscom
01:35:30|In this episode, Kane Simms is joined by Katherine Munro, Conversational AI Engineer at Swisscom, for a deep dive into what might sound like an odd pairing: using LLMs to classify customer intents.Large Language Models (LLMs) are powerful, multi-purpose tools. But would you trust one to handle the precision of a classification task?It’s an unlikely fit for an LLM. Classifiers typically need to be fast, accurate, and interpretable. LLMs are slow, random black-boxes. Classifiers need to output a single label. LLMs never stop talking.And yet, there are good reasons to use LLMs for such tasks, and emerging architectures and techniques. Many real-world use cases need a classifier, and many data and product development teams will soon find themselves wondering: could GPT handle that?If that sounds like you, then check out this extended episode to explore how Switzerland’s largest telecommunications provider tackles this issue while building a next-generation AI assistant. This episode is brought to you by NLX.NLX is a conversational AI platform enabling brands to build and manage chat, voice and multimodal applications. NLX’s patented Voice+ technology synchronizes voice with digital channels, making it possible to automate complex use cases typically handled by a human agent. When a customer calls, the voice AI guides them to resolve their inquiry through self-service using the brand’s digital asset, resulting in automation and CSAT scores well above industry average. Just ask United Airlines.Shownotes:"The Handbook of Data Science and AI: Generate Value from Data with Machine Learning and Data Analytics" - Available on Amazon: https://a.co/d/3wNN9cvKatherine's website: http://katherine-munro.com/Subscribe to VUX World: https://vuxworld.typeform.com/to/Qlo5aaeWSubscribe to The AI Ultimatum Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/kanesimmsGet in touch with Kane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kanesimms/Building AI maturity at Pandora with Sonia Ingram
01:08:02|In this episode, Kane is joined by Sonia Ingram, Global Director of AI at Pandora, to explore what it really takes to develop AI maturity in a global business.Many organisations aiming to get started with AI and generative AI often focus on short-term, point solutions to specific problems. This emergent strategy often led from the grassroots to solve siloed departmental pain points can work for proof of value. But it rarely scales.For example, a chatbot that handles returns brilliantly may not be equipped or supported to drive sales conversations. If the support team owns it, where’s the incentive to collaborate with sales to expand its capabilities?To scale AI initiatives enterprise-wide, businesses need a purposeful strategy. One that prioritises literacy, governance, tooling, and operational foundations that empower teams across the organisation to build, maintain and grow AI solutions.In this episode, Kane and Sonia explore what it really takes to build and scale AI maturity in a global business. We cover topics such as AI literacy, change management, privacy and governance, and operational tools and processes. This episode is brought to you by NLX.NLX is a conversational AI platform enabling brands to build and manage chat, voice and multimodal applications. NLX’s patented Voice+ technology synchronizes voice with digital channels, making it possible to automate complex use cases typically handled by a human agent. When a customer calls, the voice AI guides them to resolve their inquiry through self-service using the brand’s digital asset, resulting in automation and CSAT scores well above industry average. Just ask United Airlines.Subscribe to VUX World.Subscribe to The AI Ultimatum Substack.AI beyond the hype: what actually works for enterprise with Andrei Papancea, NLX
57:25|In this episode, we chat with Andrei Papancea, CEO and Co-Founder of NLX, to cut through the noise and get real about where AI in the enterprise is delivering value, and where it's not.Andrei brings a refreshing dose of grounded perspective as the buzz around ‘agentic AI’ and generative everything reaches fever pitch. Instead of chasing trends or slapping AI onto every process, NLX is laser-focused on practical outcomes: real problems, solved efficiently, and with the right tech. We explore the challenges enterprise leaders face when navigating a market bloated with hype: internal pressures to ‘do AI,’ tech stacks that aren’t ready, and misunderstandings about what LLMs can and can’t do. Andrei shares where generative AI genuinely shines and where it is still too risky, especially for heavily regulated industries.This episode is brought to you by NLX.NLX is a conversational AI platform enabling brands to build and manage chat, voice and multimodal applications. NLX’s patented Voice+ technology synchronizes voice with digital channels, making it possible to automate complex use cases typically handled by a human agent. When a customer calls, the voice AI guides them to resolve their inquiry through self-service using the brand’s digital asset, resulting in automation and CSAT scores well above industry average. Just ask United Airlines.Subscribe to VUX World.Subscribe to The AI Ultimatum Substack.AI on the rails: Arriva's journey into intelligent travel assistance
48:01|In this VUX World podcast episode with Kerry Phillipson, she reveals how Arriva Group transforms customer experience using cutting-edge AI technology. Learn how they're creating a virtual assistant that's not just another chatbot, but a smart, personable travel companion that understands your journey needs.Kerry shares with us how Arriva is driving AI innovation within the transportation sector. She explains how artificial intelligence is used to tackle real customer pain points, making travel smoother and more intuitive. The conversation also dives into what it takes to design an AI with a genuine personality one that feels more like a helpful guide than a machine. Looking ahead, they explore the future of travel support and how AI is reshaping the way customers interact with transportation services.