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Vocal Advancement Podcast

Working on The Voice Germany

Season 1, Ep. 24

Do any of your students dream of performing on a TV show like The Voice or one of the Idols singing competitions?


Then they’ll want to hear the insights of this week’s guest Stephanie Borm-Krüger, co-founder of the Institute for Vocal Advancement and vocal coach for The Voice of Germany. Being a coach on a TV show like The Voice is challenging, especially when you only get a few minutes with each contestant to help them sound their best. Yet according to Stephanie, working in such a high-pressure environment also inspires coaches be more creative in their teaching methods — and unlocks opportunities to work some truly extraordinary people.


Join us as Stephanie reveals what it really takes for anyone — singer and teacher — to succeed in the world of show business. Learn how stepping out of your comfort zone helps you gain more trust in your instincts. And discover where resilience really comes into play when working in such a high-stress field. 


In this episode, you’ll learn:

  1. How learning how to fix her own damaged voice helped Stephanie discover how to fix hard voices in other singers 8:05
  2. The vital role networking played in introducing Stephanie to the world of show business 13:52
  3. How much time a vocal coach gets to work with the singers on The Voice — and the challenges this creates 21:54
  4. The issues of maintaining vocal health and advocating for singers in a competitive and high-stress atmosphere 26:39
  5. How to succeed in a show like The Voice 35:16
  6. The importance of realizing if working in a high-stress field is right for you 41:17
  7. Why stepping out of your comfort zone is important for developing a good toolbox of teaching techniques 44:11
  8. The benefits of observing other master teachers at work 49:47


Stephanie offers professional voice training to singers of all levels and styles. Learn how she can help you by visiting her IVA profile page


Disclaimer: The free November online teaching summit Tom mentions has been pushed to January 2024 — sign up for our mailing list, and we’ll let you know when you can sign up for this and other great free resources!


Can’t wait for the summit? You can hear valuable insights from talented performers and educators right now by listening to the Vocal Advancement Podcast. Follow us and subscribe to our YouTube channel so you never miss an episode! 


About the Institute for Vocal Advancement

Interested in becoming a better vocal coach? The Institute for Vocal Advancement (IVA) connects you with teachers who can provide you with more teaching tools for your classrooms. The IVA community and trainers teach from the empathic mindset that students of all ages benefit from, showing you how to improve your own teaching style.


Check out our list of upcoming events and learn how our Teacher Training Programs can help your career. Use the code “iva20percent” to get 20% off your first year’s course membership fee!

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