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‘He needs to grow up!’: Burnham must forget Brexit and bring down benefits bill

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In today’s episode of The Daily T, Camilla Tominey is joined by Jacob Rees-Mogg to discuss Andy Burnham’s “obsession” with Brexit.

The Prime Minister has told MPs in Parliament that it is his “duty” to pursue a closer relationship with the EU and claimed in an interview that Russia interfered with the referendum in 2016.

Jacob wants the PM to “grow up” and stop fixating on Brexit – and describes the tactic as an act “straight out of Trump’s [political] playbook”.

Camilla and Jacob also address the reported £35bn black hole in the forthcoming Budget and the ballooning welfare bill that should be higher up on Mr Burnham’s list than Brexit.

Nigel Farage’s pledge to shut down the asylum system under a Reform UK government is also discussed, with Jacob agreeing that such robust action is needed to address the issue of small-boat crossings and backlog of processing asylum claimants.


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Highlights:

  • Camilla and Jacob Rees-Mogg argue that Andy Burnham needs to stop fixating on Brexit and prioritise issues like welfare and migration
  • Jacob Rees-Mogg agrees with Nigel Farage's plans to shut down the asylum system under a Reform government

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