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Carolyn Lucas & Noé Soulier
This is a conversation between Carolyn Lucas and Noé Soulier, Carolyn is the associate artistic director of the Trisha Brown Dance Company based in New York, and Noé is a choreographer and the director of the national Center for Contemporary Dance in Angers, France. We will hear them discuss the intricate relationship between structure and spontaneity in performance. They reflect on the use of external physical forces in dance, the evolution of dance techniques, and Carolyn shares her experience of preserving the legacy of Trisha Brown’s work. Find the full transcript and bibliography here: Episode Eleven: Carolyn Lucas X Noé Soulier | Rose Choreographic School
This episode is a collaboration with Dance Reflections by Van Cleef & Arpels. This initiative supports choreographic heritage, nurtures contemporary creation and engages the widest possible audience in conversations about dance.
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15. Wu Tsang & Tosh Basco
40:32||Season 1, Ep. 15This episode is a conversation between artists Wu Tsang and Tosh Basco. Wu is an award winning filmmaker and performance artist, whose works explore hidden histories, marginalised narratives, and the act of performing itself. Tosh is a multidisciplinary performance artist and photographer, whose work enfolds language, becoming, and representation together; within spaces where these are typically understood as discrete entities.In the conversation, Wu and Tosh discuss their collaboration, emphasising relationality and care in times of crisis. They reflect on their various works exploring life, death, and rebirth. They touch on the impact of capitalism, societal collapse, the fluidity of identity and memory. This conversation was recorded in a studio in London. To find a full transcript of this episode, and resources mentioned, visit our website.This episode is part of a mini-series,Choreographing the Apocalypse, which is guest curated by Mine Kaplangı, a Folkestone-based curator and art mediator from Istanbul. It forms part of their ongoing research into queer and trans imaginaries of the apocalypse(s). They will be inviting artists, thinkers, and somatic practitioners to explore apocalyptic thinking through speculative world-building and radically intimate frameworks.
14. Rohan Ayinde & Suley
56:36||Season 1, Ep. 14This episode is a conversation between Rohan Ayinde and Suley, both based in London. Rohan is part of the first cohort of the Rose Choreographic School, and he is an anadisciplinary artist and poet. Suley is a playwright, painter, lawyer and lecturer who uses world building as a radical tool of investigation. This conversation was recorded in a studio in London and it was the first meeting between these two artists. They reflect on what world building signifies within their practices, articulating how this concept informs their individual research and methodologies. Together, they examine the convergence of their practices, and how speculative fiction, poetry, collectivity and black holes can function as a lens for understanding and imagining alternative futures. This episode is part of a new series,Choreographing the Apocalypse, which is guest curated by Mine Kaplangı, a Folkestone-based curator and art mediator from Istanbul. It forms part of their ongoing research into queer and trans imaginaries of the apocalypse(s). They will be inviting artists, thinkers, and somatic practitioners to explore apocalyptic thinking through speculative world-building and radically intimate frameworks.To find a full transcript of this episode, and resources mentioned, visit our website.
13. Shu Lea Cheang & Dondon Hounwn & Dahu
56:33||Season 1, Ep. 13This episode is a conversation between artists about their piece Hagay Dreaming, which was performed at Tate Modern in early March 2025. We hear from Director, Shu Lea Cheang, artistic director and performer Dondon Hounwn, and choreographer Dahu. All the artists originate from Taiwan. They discuss the words they would like to submit to the glossary, which , in turn, form a discussion into the background of their work together. They explore themes like gender fluidity, reciprocal exchange in tribal culture, and the profound relationship between movement and spiritual belief. You will hear the artists talk to each other in a mixture of English and Mandarin.To find a full translated transcript of this episode visit our website.This episode is a collaboration with Dance Reflections by Van Cleef & Arpels. This initiative supports choreographic heritage, nurtures contemporary creation and engages the widest possible audience in conversations about dance.
12. Kerem Gelebek & Soa Ratsifandrihana
49:26||Season 1, Ep. 12This episode is a conversation between dancers Kerem Gelebek and Soa Ratsifandrihana. Soa is a Franco-Malagasy dancer and choreographer based in Brussels. And Kerem is from Turkey and based in Paris, France. We’ll hear them discuss how they use the term interpreter in place of that of choreographer or dancer, and how their work integrates personal and cultural archives. They also speak about the challenges of creating work that incorporates their heritage without exoticizing it. You can read a full transcript of this episode and links to resources mentioned here.This episode is a collaboration with Dance Reflections by Van Cleef & Arpels. This initiative supports choreographic heritage, nurtures contemporary creation and engages the widest possible audience in conversations about dance.
10. Helle Siljeholm & Simone Kenyon
58:11||Season 1, Ep. 10This episode is a conversation between Helle Siljeholm and Simone Kenyon. Helle is a choreographer and visual artist based in Oslo, and Simone is a UK based artist, dancer and producer. This was a first meeting between the two artists, and they excitedly shared their practices with each other, finding a joint interest in making work in relation to mountains. Visit Rose Choreographic School Website for the full transcript, details of their submitted sounds and other resources mentioned in the episode.This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.Rose Choreographic School Instagram
9. Mine Kaplangı & Eda Sancakdar
56:52||Season 1, Ep. 9This episode is a conversation between Mine Kaplangı and Eda Sancakdar. Mine is an independent curator and art mediator, and Eda is a researcher and artist. They are both from Turkey, are based in London and share a house together. In this conversation, Eda and Mine were in a studio in central London.They have known each other for many years, and decided to use this podcast conversation as an opportunity to ask each other questions about their practices. The discussion centres around the politics of visibility and non Western ideas of movement and identity. Visit Rose Choreographic School Website for the full transcript, details of their submitted sounds and other resources mentioned in the episode. This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.Rose Choreographic School Instagram
8. Asad Raza & Moriah Evans
50:53||Season 1, Ep. 8This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.Rose Choreographic School Website Rose Choreographic School Instagram
7. Ayesha Hameed & Sara Garzón
51:26||Season 1, Ep. 7This episode is a conversation between Ayesha Hameed and Sara Garzón. Ayesha is an artist whose work explores contemporary borders and migration, critical race theory, Walter Benjamin, and visual cultures of the Black Atlantic. Sara is a Colombian curator and art historian. She specialises in contemporary Latin American art and focuses on issues relating to decoloniality, temporality, and Indigenous ecocriticism. Their conversation includes discussions on the intersection of coloniality, indigenous knowledges, and new media technologies with a focus on climate catastrophe from a historical perspective. They talk about the representation of nature and the environment in colonial times. They also examine the concept of eco-futurism in contemporary art as well as the notion of interspecies collaboration. This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.Rose Choreographic School Website Rose Choreographic School Instagram