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Inclusion Stories ~ Chapter One: It Is a Long Story

Season 12

Carolina and Jaiker share their journey of advocating for inclusive education for their daughter Natalia, who has Down syndrome. They discuss the challenges they faced in navigating the special education system and their decision to remove Natalia from special education services. They highlight the importance of inclusive education and the positive impact it has had on Natalia's development and happiness. The episode also features insights from Cecil County Public Schools in Maryland, where inclusive practices are the norm.


This is part one of a five-part series about families and school districts fully committed to inclusive practices for all learners. Listen to the rest of Inclusion Stories: https://shows.acast.com/inclusion-stories


Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/I61Kqa0ABSDbl7RMgbVGFOfwMHA


Resources:


The Segregation of Students with Disabilities (National Council on Disability): https://ncd.gov/sites/default/files/NCD_Segregation-SWD_508.pdf


Cecil County Public Schools: https://www.ccps.org/


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Thompson Policy Institute on Disability: https://www.chapman.edu/education/centers-and-partnerships/thompson-policy-institute/index.aspx


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Support was provided by the Washington Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction and Club 21 in Pasadena, California.


Music


Theme: The Light by Greg Drews and The Truth


End Credits: Stella's Rhumba by Marcus Gerakos


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Since 1988, MCIE has equipped over 200 schools in 25 school districts across the country to include children and youth who are at the greatest risk of exclusion.


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