Think Inclusive

About the Guest(s):Liz Zogby is a dedicated advocate in the special education and disability space based in Baltimore City. She is the co-chair of the Maryland Down Syndrome Advocacy Coalition (MDAC) and the Special Education Policy and Advocacy Project. Liz also co-chairs the special education workgroup with the state superintendent under the Maryland State Department of Education. Her advocacy efforts are deeply personal, inspired by her daughter Hope, who has Down syndrome.Steven Davis is a policy advocate focused on special education reform. He resides in California, has a background in mathematics, and is known for his analytical approach to education data. Steven is dedicated to improving local policy advocacy infrastructures in his community. He founded Disability Almanac and actively engages in discussions and actions to enhance educational inclusivity for children with disabilities.Episode Summary:Join Tim Villegas on the Think Inclusive Podcast as he hosts Liz Zogby and Steven Davis to explore the crucial intersection of data and special education advocacy. Both guests bring a wealth of knowledge and personal experience as parents of children with disabilities, which fuels their passion and dedication to inclusive education practices.In this compelling episode, Liz and Steven share their journeys into the world of special education advocacy, underscored by a deep dive into the use of data to inform and drive policy changes. Liz discusses her initiatives in Maryland and how understanding and leveraging data can shift legislative perspectives. Steven provides a critical look at the alarming statistics surrounding inclusion rates in California, emphasizing the need for high expectations and proper resource allocation. Together, they highlight the importance of combining both data and personal stories to make a significant impact on educational reform.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/FFx3Ms0th62yMOHjGYBECmtcgPYKey Takeaways:The Role of Data in Advocacy: How Liz and Steven use data on inclusion rates to inform and drive policy changes.Systemic Challenges: Steven's insights into California's dismal inclusion statistics and his efforts to build better local advocacy infrastructures.Personal and Statistical Storytelling: The importance of merging personal stories with data for effective advocacy.Actionable Strategies for Educators: Recommendations for educators on understanding and utilizing data to support inclusive practices.Parent Empowerment: Encouragement for parents to use their expertise about their children in IEP meetings and advocacy.Resources:National Council of Disability PDF: https://www.ncd.gov/assets/uploads/docs/ncd-segregation-swd-508.pdfHow to Find a School District’s LRE %: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/how-to-find-a-school-districts-least-restrictive-environment-percentage/Thank you to our sponsor, IXL: Learn more at https://ixl.com/inclusiveMCIE: https://www.mcie.org

About the Guest(s):Erik Carter serves as Executive Director of the Baylor Center for Developmental Disabilities, which aims to promote the thriving of people with disabilities and their families. He joined the Baylor faculty in 2023. His research and writing focus on principle-driven and research-based strategies for promoting full participation, relationships, and valued roles for children and adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities (IDD).One strand of his research addresses the intersections of faith and disability. Dr. Carter’s work in this area addresses the spiritual lives and flourishing of people with IDD and their families, the practices and postures of inclusive churches, and faith-based partnerships with disability service systems. A second strand explores the pathways to inclusion and belonging for individuals with IDD. He is particularly interested in capturing the reciprocal and lasting benefits that come through friendships and life lived together in community.Episode Summary:In this episode of the Think Inclusive podcast, Tim Villegas welcomes Erik Carter, the esteemed Executive Director of the Baylor Center for Developmental Disabilities, to discuss the intricate topics of disability, inclusion, and belonging. Erik shares updates on his current work at Baylor and the initiatives he is spearheading to promote flourishing within communities, schools, and faith congregations. Erik's transition from Vanderbilt to Baylor signifies his broader focus on community-wide inclusion and ensuring every individual's sense of belonging and purpose.Erik delves into the concept of "flourishing" versus "thriving," defining flourishing as living rich, full, and abundant lives with strong relationships, community connections, and a sense of purpose. In a thought-provoking discussion, Erik outlines ten dimensions of belonging that extend beyond mere inclusion to emphasize the importance of being invited, welcomed, known, accepted, and loved. The conversation highlights the practical, everyday actions that can foster these dimensions of belonging in both educational and faith-based settings, encouraging listeners to re-evaluate and improve their approaches to inclusion and community building.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/CfJq-Oo4E_1D2ljznGNv0hNFOxQKey Takeaways:Erik Carter's move from Vanderbilt to Baylor emphasizes a broader community focus on inclusion and belonging.The concept of "flourishing" involves more than just good outcomes; it incorporates strong relationships, purpose, and community connections.Erik outlines ten dimensions of belonging: being present, invited, welcomed, known, accepted, supported, heard, befriended, needed, and loved.Belonging extends beyond schools to faith communities, where inclusion must be reimagined to prevent the deep wounding caused by exclusion.Practical steps to foster belonging include noticing who is excluded, reflecting on intentional actions, and transforming both educational and faith institutions to be more inclusive.Resources:Baylor Center for Developmental Disabilities: https://bcdd.soe.baylor.edu/10 Dimensions of Belonging: https://promotingprogress.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Fostering_Belonging_Handout.pdfThank you to our sponsor, IXL! Learn more: https://ixl.com/inclusiveMCIE: mcie.org

About the Guest(s):Danny Whitty is a non-speaking autistic advocate who uses spelling to communicate. He has gained attention for his insights into living as a non-speaker and his advocacy for disability rights. Danny is a co-host of the podcast "All Our Brave Hearts" along with his sister, Tara. Their podcast aims to amplify the voices of non-speakers and advocate for more inclusive practices in education and society.Tara Whitty is Danny's sister and his main communication regulation partner. She plays a crucial role in helping Danny communicate and is an advocate for inclusive education and disability rights. Tara holds a PhD in a field unrelated to speech communication, but she has trained herself to be a practitioner to support Danny in his communication journey. Together, they produce the podcast "All Our Brave Hearts."Episode Summary:In this engaging episode of "Think Inclusive," host Tim Villegas converses with Danny and Tara Whitty, shedding light on the transformative power of alternative communication methods like spelling to communicate. Through a detailed discussion, Danny shares his experiences of living a "shadow of a life" before gaining the ability to communicate via spelling. Tara discusses the crucial role of a communication regulation partner and the struggles associated with hiring one outside the family.Danny and Tara delve into the barriers to full inclusion in schools, highlighting the resistance and skepticism surrounding alternative communication methods such as spelling to communicate. Despite the challenges, Danny’s journey stands as a testament to resilience, illustrating the power of presuming competence and the essential human right of communication. The episode serves as a powerful reminder that an inclusive mindset can make a significant difference in the lives of non-speakers.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/3zwexqa26T51HJx2DWfwAmsyptUKey Takeaways:The introduction of spelling to communicate can drastically improve the quality of life and autonomy for non-speaking individuals.Hiring and training communication regulation partners is challenging but necessary for granting non-speakers more autonomy.There is significant bias and skepticism within educational and professional communities regarding the validity of alternative communication methods.Inclusive education should prioritize presuming competence and providing necessary communication tools to all students, regardless of their initial perceived abilities.Danny and Tara's podcast, "All Our Brave Hearts," aims to foster understanding and acceptance of non-speakers and broader disability rights issues.Resources:All Our Braves Hearts: https://allourbravehearts.substack.com/Danny with Words: https://dannywithwords.com/SPELLERS: https://youtu.be/8h1rcLyznK0?feature=sharedThank you to our sponsor, IXL! Learn more: https://www.ixl.com/inclusiveMCIE: https://www.mcie.org/

About the Guest(s):Tim Villegas is the Director of Communications for the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education (MCIE). He is also the founder of Think Inclusive, which is the blog, podcast, and social media handle of MCIE. He has 16 years of experience in public education as a teacher and district support specialist. His focus now is on how media and communications can promote inclusive education for all learners.Episode Summary:Dive into the compelling discussion led by Tim Villegas on the prevalent issue of segregated special education classrooms and the significant need for inclusive education. In this inaugural episode of the 12th season of Think Inclusive, Tim reflects on his experiences as a special education teacher and district support specialist, offering profound insights into why segregated classrooms persist and how we can evolve beyond them. He questions the rationale behind segregated education and champions the cause of inclusive practices for all learners, especially those with complex support needs.Tim dismantles prevalent myths around the safety, specialized support, and individualized attention that segregated classrooms purportedly offer. He also introduces effective strategies and frameworks that underline the benefits of inclusive settings for students' academic and social development. This episode serves as a rich resource for educators, parents, and policymakers committed to fostering equitable and inclusive learning environments.Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/OMLKKTMpHeHKey Takeaways:The Inadequacy of Segregated Classrooms: Segregated special education classrooms often fail to provide the individualized, specialized support they promise, leading to a divided attention on students' needs.The Importance of Inclusive Vision: Effective inclusion requires strong leadership from school principals and district administrators, emphasizing a collaborative approach between general and special education teachers.Natural Proportions: Distributing students with complex support needs across various classrooms in natural proportions can significantly enhance inclusive practices and provide balanced support.Role of School Leadership: School principals play a critical role in shaping inclusive culture and driving systemic change within the education system.Effective Collaboration: Success in inclusive education comes from the joint efforts of general and special education teachers, ensuring that services are delivered effectively and equitably without siloing student needs.Resources:Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education (MCIE)Thank you to our sponsor, IXL! Learn more: https://www.ixl.com/inclusive

About the Guest(s):Margo Gross: Margo serves as the Supervisor of Equity for Calvert County Public Schools. Her work focuses on identifying and dismantling barriers to inclusion within educational environments, advocating for equity, and ensuring that all students have equal opportunities to thrive.Lisa Quinn: A former special education teacher, Lisa is now the owner and executive director of Reach Every Voice. Her organization focuses on integrating inclusive educational practices and supports that enhance the learning experiences of students with diverse needs.Jennifer Ayers: Jennifer is an instructional coordinator for special education with Cecil County Public Schools. Her role involves coordinating and implementing inclusive education strategies and supporting educators in providing high-quality education to all students.Jennifer Sommerness: Jen is a researcher at the Ties Center at the University of Minnesota. She specializes in inclusive education practices and collaborates with educators to develop strategies that support the inclusion of all students in general education settings.Episode Summary:In this special live episode of Think Inclusive, host Tim Villegas engages with a distinguished panel about the intricacies and importance of inclusive education. Recorded at the Crown Plaza in Annapolis, the discussion features insights from Margo Gross, Lisa Quinn, Jennifer Ayers, and Jennifer Sommerness, each bringing their extensive experience and expertise in the field.The panelists delve into what it means to be an inclusionist, exploring the roles and responsibilities involved in advocating for inclusive education. Using personal stories and professional experiences, they provide a holistic view of the challenges and triumphs associated with implementing inclusive practices in educational systems. From identifying and removing barriers to actively listening and engaging in meaningful conversations, the episode emphasizes the collaborative effort needed to foster an inclusive environment.Listeners will learn about the practical steps and strategies that can be employed to advocate for and achieve inclusive education. The conversation highlights both the successes and ongoing challenges, providing a nuanced perspective on why inclusion is not just the right thing to do, but an essential practice for educational equity and social justice. The episode concludes with a discussion on how to maintain resilience and motivation in the face of setbacks and the importance of community and support in continuing this vital work.Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/jOZJVcZxL6GKey Takeaways:Definition and Role of an Inclusionist: Understanding the responsibilities and attributes of those who advocate for inclusive practices in education.Importance of Listening: The significance of listening to others' perspectives and experiences in promoting and implementing inclusive education.Personal Stories of Inclusion Benefits: Real-life examples of how inclusive education has positively impacted students and educators.Challenges and Resilience: Strategies for staying motivated and effective in the fight for inclusion, despite facing resistance and setbacks.Collaboration and Continuous Learning: Emphasizing the need for ongoing conversations and efforts to adapt and improve inclusive practices.Resources:MCIE: https://www.mcie.org/Reach Every Voice: https://www.reacheveryvoice.org/TIES Center at University of Minnesota: https://tiescenter.org/

This week, we bring you a feed drop by our friends at the New Jersey Coalition for Inclusive Education (NJCIE), the Inclusion Think Tank Podcast with Arthur Aston. In this episode, Vikas, a parent advocate, shares his family's journey toward inclusive education for his daughter with Down syndrome, emphasizing the importance of effective communication between parents and educators, the need for tailored resources to support diverse learning styles, and the belief that inclusion benefits all students in the classroom.Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/tZHg3VNf54zTo learn more about NJCIE, go to https://www.njcie.org/

Think Inclusive is off for the summer, but in the meantime, enjoy this feed drop from our friend Savitha Sundar.Host Savita Sundar, a school-based occupational therapist, welcomes guest Dr. Debbie Taub to discuss the Inclusive Education Roadmap. They delve into the benefits of starting students in general education, the importance of inclusive practices, and strategies to support sustainable systemic change. Dr. Taub shares her extensive experience in education and the impact of inclusivity across school systems. They also explore the future of inclusive education and advocate for necessary changes to achieve greater equity and opportunity for all students.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/ESXIBxEtmP-J1iqN5nTN4bzfSoAThis feed drop is Part 2 of 2. Check out Inclusive Occupations wherever you get your podcasts.

Think Inclusive is off for the summer, but we have feed drops from some of our podcasting friends in the meantime!In this episode of Inclusive Occupations, host Savitha Sundar engages in a compelling conversation with Dr. Diane Ryndak, an esteemed scholar and advocate for inclusive education. Dr. Ryndak discusses her personal journey and the experiences that fueled her commitment to creating inclusive educational environments. The discussion covers the Inclusive Education Roadmap developed by the TIES Center, focusing on sustainable systemic change for students with significant disabilities. Listeners will gain valuable insights into best practices, systemic change strategies, and the importance of context in inclusive education.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/UALQNmsWcLsPclvZJ4rnpY-c698?This feed drop is Part 1 of 2. Check out Inclusive Occupations wherever you get your podcasts.

About the Guest(s):Ashlynn Rich: Ashlynn Rich is a recent high school graduate with Down syndrome. She graduated with honors and earned the title of scholar-athlete for her involvement in the school’s swim team. She also owns her own small business, Pop Queen Baked Goods. Ashlynn advocates for including students with disabilities in school and the community.Linda Ramirez: Linda is the mother of Ashlynn Rich. She has tirelessly advocated for inclusive education and has fought for her daughter to be fully included in general education classrooms.Episode Summary: In this compelling episode of Think Inclusive, Tim Villegas delves into the bittersweet experience of Ashlynn Rich, a high school graduate with Down syndrome, and her struggle for inclusion in everyday school life and her graduation ceremony. Despite her numerous achievements, Ashlynn faced exclusion during this milestone event, highlighting systemic issues within the education system regarding inclusivity.Ashlynn and her mother, Linda Ramirez, share their emotional journey and the ongoing fight for a truly inclusive education system. The episode covers the immediate and long-term impacts of Ashlynn’s exclusion during her graduation, a school board meeting addressing the incident, and the broader implications of segregating students with disabilities. Through their story, listeners gain valuable insights into the challenges and importance of creating an inclusive educational environment for all students.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/Mv0TTx788S3qKBPvfhtAvLvw0GgKey Takeaways:Exclusion at Graduation: Ashlynn was separated from her peers during her graduation ceremony, which caused her to feel hurt and disappointed.Lifelong Advocacy: Linda Ramirez has fought for years across multiple school districts to ensure Ashlyn receives an inclusive education.Systemic Issues: The incident underscores the broader problem of systemic exclusion of students with disabilities in education.Public Apology: Following their speeches at a school board meeting, the superintendent publicly apologized for Ashlynn’s exclusion, admitting it should have been a parental decision.Call for Action: Linda continues to advocate for better training for educators on inclusive practices to prevent such incidents in the future.Resources:Pop Queen Baked Goods: https://www.facebook.com/PopQueenBakeryMarietta Daily Journal:https://www.mdjonline.com/news/education/a-minimization-sprayberry-graduation-excludes-disabled-students/article_877c8ca8-1f6b-11ef-9c86-9f56b036ce0e.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1Fd0vSy1uksocDF726LtrkPk5XL3n6p4Wv6aqNLAgLwUalhbbEP7Kt62o_aem_2iJcypHHifJb1xCwyUvcdQhttps://www.mdjonline.com/news/education/cobb-superintendent-apologizes-for-graduation-exclusion/article_2b14e6f8-29da-11ef-a166-ab78ef807f2b.html