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Growth and change - with Andrew Heard
‘Many of the ways we are running our churches and ministries and many of the ways we are exercising leadership within our churches, has become a significant hindrance to the growth of the church.’
Andrew Heard’s about to be released book Growth and Change will be the ‘must read’ book for pastors for 2024.
In his opening preface Gospel Coalition founder DA Carson - says ‘I am usually loath to proclaim that such and such a book is the best in it’s field … but if there is one book that happily serves as the exception to the rule, Heard’s book is it.
Change is painful. Why don’t we want to change?
We cannot be content to just be faithful, if we mean faithfulness has no regard for the growth of God’s church.
The younger leader is more likely to succumb to the dangers relating to a passion for growth. However for older leaders, ‘As we age, it is possible to get stuck… We have battled for so long under the weight of small things, that our vision has shrunk to become no larger than the day to day needs of the church.’
How do we get unstuck? ‘Leading change requires significant emotional, relational and creative energy. But most church leaders have very little in the tank…'
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47. Authority Imbalances, Complaints and Christian Leadership – with Jenni Woodhouse
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46. Abuse in Christian Marriage – with Darby Strickland
41:31||Season 8, Ep. 46How might we better (as pastors) better come alongside victims of domestic abuse? Abuse in Christian marriage is easy to miss—and even easier to minimise. How can pastors recognise what is happening behind closed doors and help our churches become places of refuge for the oppressed?Counsellor and author Darby Strickland joins us to discuss domestic abuse, the entitlement that drives it, and the patterns of control that can be hidden beneath an appearance of Christian respectability.Darby Strickland is a counsellor and faculty member at the Christian Counseling & Educational Foundation (CCEF), and author of Is It Abuse? A Biblical Guide to Identifying Domestic Abuse and Helping Victims.We explore how to listen carefully and ask better questions.We consider how Christ’s sacrificial love shapes our care for those living with oppression and fear.Also see: Caring pastorally for domestic abuse victims — Jenni WoodhouseFeatures a survivor’s story, with Jenni reviewing Dominic’s pastoral response and discussing what pastors can learn.Abuse in the marriages of ministry leaders — Jenni WoodhouseExplores the added pressures when a victim’s home, income and church community are tied to their spouse’s ministry.Telling the difference between Domestic Violence and Dysfunctional Relationship? — Magdalena LiemLooks at recognising abuse and responding pastorally to victims and those accused of perpetrating it.Coercive control in Christian families and the impact on children — Jenni WoodhouseDiscusses the impact on children and how church leaders can recognise and respond to coercive control.
45. Building conflict capable ministry teams – with Tim Dyer
35:24||Season 8, Ep. 45Why do some church teams emerge from disagreement stronger, while others fracture, divide or quietly drift apart?We expect opposition to the gospel and theological disagreement. What we’re often far less prepared for is tension within our own ministry teams. When ordinary disagreements become personal, motives are questioned and relationships begin to rupture.Tim Dyer has spent years helping churches and ministry leaders navigate conflict. He says church teams can be simultaneously conflict-prone/averse and process-poor, which can lead to a “high fire danger rating”.So how do we build ministry teams that are genuinely conflict-capable? And how do we stop a disagreement becoming a relational rupture?
44. Twice as Vulnerable: What Every Pastor Needs to Know – with Bec Baines
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43. 20% attendance growth in three years – Craig Roberts
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42. Challenging functional idols in ministry from the ten commandments - Phillip Jensen
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41. ‘Dick Lucas’ mind was blown apart’ - with Andrew Atherstone
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40. In it to win it—or quit now? with Andrew Atherstone
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39. The joys, privileges and rewards of Christian ministry — with Matt Fuller
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