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BBC’s Commercial Impact Under Scrutiny
As the BBC pushes on with its Radio 2 spinoff - we speak to rival Boom Radio’s Phil Riley about the impact on his business.
Meanwhile, BBC Studios has a ‘work-for-hire’ dilemma... media commentator Kate Bulkley unpicks a thorny problem for the BBC’s commercial strategy.
Also on the programme: staff at The Observer and the Guardian vote to strike over the proposed sale of the Sunday paper to Tortoise... but is the deal already done? James Ball, political editor at The New European is here to provide an update.
All that, plus... could an AI startup save journalism?
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A Rethink Audio production, produced by Matt Hill with post-production from Podcast Discovery.
We record at Podshop Studios - for 25% off your first booking, use the code MEDIA CLUB at podshoponline.co.uk
The Media Club’s stories of the week:
Guardian & Observer staff to walk out over sale
Radio 2 announces spinoff - and Phil Riley is not happy about it
Watchdog urges BBCS to create more IP
Could an AI startup save journalism?
Fulwell73 and LeBron James’ SpringHill strike mega-merger deal
Logan Paul Sends Look-a-Like to BBC Interview
Goalhanger shuts TV Production House
Chapters:
(00:00) Intro
(00:47) Kathleen Kennedy
(02:15) Adam Bienkov
(04:07) Observer/Tortoise
(07:30) NAO/BBC
(12:35) R2 Breakfast
(17:14) R2 Extra/Phil Riley
(24:16) Podcast Discovery
(24:46) Podshop Online
(25:51) Everyone's Talking About
(26:36) Journalism AI
(30:16) New European
(37:13) Quiz
(41:05) Goodbye
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