The Happy Pear Podcast


Dr Melanie Joy on Relationships & Carnism

Season 4, Ep. 4
Have you ever heard of Dr. Melanie Joy? Well, if you haven’t you should! Is it acceptable to say this could be our favourite episode to date?Joy has an incredible capacity to distill information in the most tangible way. She effortlessly cuts to the core of so many major issues that impact us all. From the macros like climate change or racism to the micros of personal relationships.“When you look at systems of oppression like racism, classism, carnism/animal exploitation. All of these are expressions of the same type of thinking. Each set of victims of these forms of oppression will always have unique experiences, but the systems themselves are structurally similar and the mentality that drives these systems are the same.”MelanieJoy, Ph.D., is a Harvard-educated psychologist specialising in relationships, communication, and social change.She is the author of six books, including the award-winningWhy We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows, Beyond Beliefs: A Guide to Improving Relationships and Communication Among Vegans, Vegetarians, and Meat Eaters,andGetting Relationships Right. Joy is the eighth recipient of the Institute of Jainology’s Ahimsa Award, which was previously given toNelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. Her work has been featured by numerous media outlets, including the BBC, ABC Australia, NPR, and theNew York Times. She is also the founding President of the non-profit organisation, Beyond Carnism.Moving from effective and ineffective forms of communication and relation literacy to veganism and her own perfectly coined term, Carnism - We delve deep into her formula for successful relations, and really how attainable it is.“Every communication, has two parts to it; it has the content, that’s what we are communicating about and then there’s the process, and that’s HOW we are communicating. We tend to all over-focus on the content “I just want to get the words right, I just want to get my answer out there”, but the process matters much more. If you think about a conversation that you had, 6 months to a year ago. It’s possible that you actually forgot the content entirely -somebody you talked to at a party or something- but you probably remembered how you felt in that conversation. The process determines how you feel and when your process is healthy, you can communicate about anything without arguing…when your process is not healthy, you can’t communicate about anything without arguing. You probably know people who have so much in common, and yet always seem to find a reason to butt heads and argue together.”A truly awakening episode. Please let us know your thoughts on socials and if you like what you hear, please subscribe and share.Big love,Dave & SteveYou can learn more about Dr. Melanie Joy and her work

The Death Metal Irish Baron - Randal Plunkett

Season 4, Ep. 3
Coined “The Death Metal Irish Baron”, this re-wilding, filmmaking, vegan Lord is not only continuing in the lineage of great ancestors before him but also going against the grain. How? By giving back what he inherited to its true owner: Mother Earth herself… This week's podcast guest is Lord Randal Plunkett.He has been described as an idiot, a moron and crazy but that doesn’t stop him. Randal is aware of the mantle he must withhold;“When you are born into privilege, you must live in servitude… I have a responsibility… I must make things better..”With a lineage of philanthropists, saints and scholars behind him, this is not an easy feat! However, despite the seriousness of the tasks Randal has taken on, he has a great sense of humour and is not what you would expect when you hear the word “Lord”:“The only time I ever go by Lord is when I am wearing a cape, and yes, of course, I have a cape.”We laughed, we went deep, we spoke about his past, the hate from locals that comes with the title, the various places he grew up in, the relationship with his lineage, his love for horror, death metal, filmmaking, and how he came to re-wild his estate.“This is now the most important thing I have ever done."A fascinating character and a natural-born storyteller, Randal and this episode will keep you entertained, will stimulate your curiosity and potentially even start you on your own re-wilding journey!We hope you enjoy it and if you like our podcast please subscribe and share.Big love,Dave & Steve xREFERENCESFILM: The Green Sea by Randal PlunkettInstagramDunsany Natural Reserve

Unveiling Secrets with Manchán Magan

Season 4, Ep. 1
To kick off our new series no better man to have than the wise monk himself - Manchán Magan. And guess what, it was in person! Whoop! Genuinely what a treat, and you can really tell!His name, Manchán, literally means ‘little monk’ and if you were to meet him, there really is no better fitting name - Even how he holds himself has an air of soft wise intellect.We began thinking we were going to dive deep into the Irish language and all its nuances but wow did we get so so much more.Manchán, is the type of person who will keep even the most highly strung business person on edge listening!! We navigate through this conversation from his time on the TG4 travel show taking him to all kinds of weird and wonderful tribes, to mingling with “The Screamists” (a cult who literally spend their time whaling and screaming), to mysterious forgotten histories, and his adventure to beat the mortgage ladder and find 10 acres for 10 grand.Manchán is a writer, a poet and a deep thinker. His latest book 32 words for a field, has instilled in us a whole new passion for the Irish language. Give him 5 minutes of your time and I swear you’ll be downloading Duolingo beginner Irish!According to Manchán the Irish language not only holds the secrets to the best places to find fish in the Irish countryside, or how to predict the weather, but also how to really connect. To connect us to this earth, to the people and inevitably to sustainable living.“During the dark ages Europe lost all of its libraries, all of it was destroyed, all of its central regal systems. A new sort of violent force was taking over, all the philosophy and wisdom was gone, but Ireland still had it in their libraries because they were never part of that. Now that Christianity was male focuses, it was hierarchal, but it had a key. It had a beautiful visionary voice in terms of Jesus Christ at the beginning of it, and particularly Irish Christianity, because when St Patrick came in 430 AD, we took on some of that, just like the Taro Oman mountain runners in Mexico, took on some of the Jesuits stuff (their clothes etc..) but they kept their connection to the landscape. We did the same in Ireland, we took some of the rules of Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary, but look at our Holy Wells… Our Holy Wells and our Holy Rivers, we realised that nature was sacred, so we brought some of this knowledge back to Europe. You can find it still in Monasteries in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, the teachings of Irish Monastic figures.”A really wonderful episode from a phenomenal character.Let us know your thoughts on social media and if you like what you hear, please support this podcast by subscribing and sharing.Big Love,Dave and Steve xREFERENCESManchán's Book: Thirty-Two Words for a FieldZach Bush MDTaro Oman mountain runners - Book Born To RunRichard Heinberg - Our Previous Podcast EpisodeHelena Norberg-HodgeMoy Hill Farm in County Clare

Our Growing Economy with Richard Heinberg

Season 3, Ep. 10
“We are victims of our own success”Has economic growth destroyed us all? Usually economic growth is seen as a good thing right? Or at least that is what politicians would have us believe.In this episode prepare yourselves! Put your seat belts on! As Richard Heinberg does not hold back. There is no softness or sugar coating here, he has been spreading the word of our impending climate crisis for many many years…Richard is Senior Fellow-in-Residence of thePost Carbon Institute, and is regarded as one of the world’s foremost advocates for a shift away from our current reliance on fossil fuels. He is the author of fourteen books, has written essays and articles, delivered hundreds of lectures and interviews for print (including forReuters, andTime), television (including Good Morning America, National Geographic, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Al-Jazeera, and C-SPAN), and radio (including NPR, WABC, and Air America).Not to mention, Richard has appeared in many film and television documentaries, including Leonardo DiCaprio’s11th Hour.Needless to say, when it comes to the climate crisis, he’s the man! In this episode, we jump straight into the core of it all. Richard talks us through everything from the limitations of renewable energy, the growth of capitalism, human ingenuity, to eco-living, community resilience and the power of ascetic beauty.“Ascetics have been hijacked by capitalism, in biology it’s called ascetic decadents. That’s where the competition of production and enjoyment of beauty takes off on its own and it actually leads to the evolutionary bottleneck in a species. The classic example is the Irish elk. Which is this type of elk that used to live in Ireland and started to evolve bigger and bigger antlers, until the antlers were so large… and it was doing this for ascetic purposes. The elk just ultimately could not persist and they went extinct. Now we are doing the same thing with our ascetic pleasures, they have been hijacked by capitalism and by consumerism, so that most of the ascetic consumption that we do in the modern world, is all based on just making money and trying to think a certain way. Everything is ascetically designed to make us want to buy more so it’s serving the very process of economic growth that is undermining our future. So we have to take back ascetics from capitalism and consumerism, and once again it needs to serve our long term wellbeing.”Don’t worry it isn’t all doom and gloom! We left the conversation feeling slightly beat up but overall hopeful and empowered.We look forward to hearing your thoughts on social media!If you enjoyed this episode and want to support the podcast please click subscribe or follow!Big love, Dave and Steve xReferenceNaomi KleinHelena Norberg-HodgesSatish Kumar MagazineZach Bush MD

Talking to Strangers with Joe Keohane

Season 3, Ep. 9
Do you talk to strangers?When you think of the word ‘stranger’, does danger come to mind?This week we talk to the insightful Joe Keohane, a veteran journalist who has held high-level editing positions atMedium, Esquire, Entrepreneur, andHemispheres. His writing—on everything from politics, to travel, to social science, business, and technology—has appeared inNew Yorkmagazine,The Boston Globe, The New Yorker, Wired, Bostonmagazine,The New Republic,and several textbooks. An avid parallel parker and occasional working musician, he also won a prestigious Screenwriters Colony fellowship in 2017 for a comedy television pilot that remains, sadly, unproduced.In this episode we talk to him about his latest book; The Power of Strangers; The Benefits of Connecting in a Suspicious World - An exploration of why we don’t talk to strangers, and the wonderful things that would happen if we did.As some of you might know we are very vocal advocates for ‘loose social interactions’. We love talking to strangers, and any acquaintances we may come across - we simply find people fascinating! So naturally, this conversation was right up our alley.Joe is hilarious, he realised he wasn’t the best at striking up conversations with random people so he thought he would challenge himself by finding out why, and furthermore, is this is a common thing with most people nowadays in our screen-watching world? So he found a course on the topic (that’s right, a course on ‘how to talk to strangers’) and set off to London to find out how!“There is a really good technique I learned when I was doing this which is, don’t ask people what they do, ask them what they would like to do more of or less of, and that will get you a really interesting answer. The person might say “I am a chartered accountant” and you ask; “well what do you want to do more of”, they might say “oh ballet”, and then you exclaim “oh that’s interesting! A ballet dancing accountant, that’s unusual” … and then you are off to the races! That gets you to understanding peoples motivation and individuality. Thats the way you can break the script of boring cocktail party chatter.”From the psychology, to the history, to the practical. Joe takes us through it all in this episode. We talk social studies, individual experiences and for a pair of extrovert-chatty-twins, we even managed to learn a lot!“There wasn't much difference between introverts and extroverts in the actual study. They seem to have the same experience. The extroverts are more comfortable initiating the interaction but the introverts got the same benefits from it once they started doing it. And my theory is (based on my own research), is that the skills you need to be really good at this are introvert skills. It’s listening, it’s noticing, it’s paying attention, it’s not stepping all over somebody, it’s not doing the thing that everyone does in conversations where you are just looking for a way in to talk about yourself. Those skills are invaluable.So I feel that introverts can learn from extroverts in the way that extroverts are good at going up to people. But extroverts need to learn from introverts in the way that you conduct the conversation, in the way that you learn to listen to people, and you don’t make everything about you and you ask them questions about their lives etc…”Give the episode a listen, then go out and strike a conversation with a stranger! Go and explore! Who knows where it may take you ;)REFERENCETheodore Zeldin

Creating your own Sustainable Community with Davie Philip

Season 3, Ep. 8
This week we are thrilled to say we have our friend, the eco-warrior, Davie Philip.Davie is a community catalyst and facilitator, the sustainability cooperative based in Cloughjordan Ecovillage, and a network weaver, the European network for community-led initiatives on climate change and sustainability. He is the coordinator to the Open Food Hub at Cloughjordan Community Farm and the chair of Open Food Network Ireland.Davie brings us through his fascinating narrative from his early eco-warrior, revolutionist days of being arrested, and as he describes "we were more interested in being proactive than reactive" to the foundations of which he and a few others began the Cloughjordan eco-village."Getting involved in an eco-village or a community project at this scale is the longest self-development course you’ve ever taken. Because you are constantly learning about yourself. And I think that shift that you just mentioned, Steve - that ego to eco, I think that’s a world view that we need if we are going to survive on a hospitable planet by the end of the century. We need to move from that individualistic just consumerist culture that reduces everything into its parts, to where we actually start to see relationships and connection, and the value and health and wellbeing of the whole is good for me as a part of that whole.”Davie is seriously inspirational and does not sugar coat a thing, we dive deep into the successes and difficulties of creating a sustainable community, from our political setbacks to the health and mental benefits of co-living and amenities sharing community.“Community living and land trust show that there are different approaches to living. It’s mad because in Ireland our only two ways to secure a home is a mortgage (a massive dept) 'mort-gage' literally translates to “the grip of death”, or rental with no secure tenure. That’s our options, whereas in Europe there are multiple options, the diversity of ways to secure your home and your home being more than just an asset you speculate on.”A great conversation and a brilliant addition to our community series. We hope you enjoy it as much as we did and listen out for the 4 simple steps we as individuals can start right now to build on our own communities for a healthier and happier future.Love,Dave & Steve