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FW20: Ben Smith - Treadstone

Ben Smith is no stranger to Jason Bourne and his associated movie adaptations from the Robert Ludlum novels, having produced a number of the theatrical versions of the tale of sleeper assassins. Now, along with Universal Content Productions, he is presenting a prequel of sorts on television in the form of Treadstone, coming to the USA Network on October 15, 2019. The TV series will explore the origins of the black ops initiative that turned ordinary people into deadly assassins that could be activated at any time. With storylines taking place in the 70s as well as in modern times, Treadstone appears poised to give us an action-packed international romp worth of Ludlum and (ahem) the Bourne legacy.

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