Join Mark Williams-Thomas as he asks you to become the armchair detective in cases exploring possible miscarriages of justice.
Hosted by investigative journalist and former police detective Mark Williams-Thomas, this podcast explores possible miscarriages of justice in a variety of cases, ranging from terrorism, to murder, to missing people. Eac
Trailer • The Musketeers
Coming soon, a case which looks into the emotive, dangerous and highly secretive world of terrorism. In August 2017, three men, who dubbed themselves the Three Musketeers, were found guilty of planning a terror attack on a police or military target in the UK. A fourth man was also convicted for his involvement in the plot.But could there have been a miscarrige of justice? Does the evidence collected by the Police stand up to scrutiny? Do YOU think these men are guilty?
Series 1, Episode 1 • The Musketeers
Season 1, Ep. 1
Mark Williams-Thomas introduces you to the case involving three men, known as the Three Musketeers, and one other man, all convicted of preparing to commit an act of terror. He begins by giving an overview of the case, and highlights major terrorist attacks that took place around the world, near the time of the trial. Could the mass panic have led to the wrongful prosecution of these four men? Lawyer for the defence, Gareth Pierce, has represented many cases involving terrorism, involving the prosecution of The Guildford Four and The Birmingham Six. She explains how she came to work on the case, and offers her testimony, arguing the facts brought to court by the Police don’t stack up.Hear also from Stephen Kamlish QC, a barrister with more than 40 years experience, as he voices his major concerns with the evidence against the ‘Musketeers’.
Series 1, Episode 2 • The Musketeers
Season 1, Ep. 2
In part two of The Musketeers, Mark Williams-Thomas digs deeper into the lives of the four men, convicted of preparing to commit an act of terror. The last episode set out the prosecution's case, and highlighted the defence team's concerns. Not only do we hear more from the defence lawyers Stephen Kamlish QC and Gareth Pierce, but in an interview with Khobaib Hussain's sister, we find out why the men were of interest to MI5 in the first place. Looking more forensically at the evidence provided by the prosecution, namely the JD sports bag and Vincent's pocket notebook, we begin to question the integrity of the accusations, and learn how officer anonymity may have hindered justice being sought. Also hear from Chris Mullin, the man who led the campaign that resulted in the release of the Birmingham Six, as he explains just how easy it is for people to be convicted of crimes they did not commit.
Series 2, Episode 1 • What If It's Not Murder?
Season 2, Ep. 1
We set the scene on the horrific and brutal murder of 17-year-old, Sana Ali who was 11 weeks pregnant. The attack on Friday 10 May 2007 resulted in over 40 separate knife wounds, described as ‘sustained and ferocious’, and occurred at the home of her husband’s parents in Bury on the outskirts of Manchester, England.Sana’s husband, playboy businessman Sair Ali had been having a long-term affair withHarmohinderSanghera, also known as Mindy.On that fateful day Mindy drove from her home in Solihull, West Midlands to confront Sana about her husbands illicit affair but to tell also her it was all over.After a trial in November 2007Mindy, a dentistry student was jailed for life, with a minimum term of 14 years, for the murder of Sana Ali.Mindy has always maintained her innocence and this podcast will take you through a very careful and thorough forensic re-investigation of all the evidence from both the prosecution and the defence.We hear from Mindy as she describes her visit to Sana.You, the listener will be asked to consider if Mindy is a cold-blooded killer or if she is the result of a flawed police investigation, resulting in a tragic miscarriage of justice.In the opening episode we will explore the following:·Mindy as a person, and her family's fight for what they believe is a miscarriage of justice·Background to Mindy’s affair with Sair·The initial police investigation·Mindy’s own account of what happened when she visited SanaTEASE – Next week·We hear from the police officer that lead the police investigation·Hear the initial 999 emergency call·Mindy’s best friend describes her conversations with Mindy on the day of the murder·We begin to piece together the timeline of Mindy’s movements
Series 2, Episode 2 • What If It's Not Murder?
Season 2, Ep. 2
In this episode we start to break down the police and prosecution case against Mindy and what it was that lead to her being convicted of the furious and brutal murder of 17-year-old Sana Ali, the wife of her lover.On the day of the attack Mindy speaks to her best friend Sheetal, both on her way to confront Sana and also immediately after she leaves the house. In Sheetal’s own words, we hear details of the exact conversations she had with Mindy.We hear more from Mindy as she describes what happened and who she spoke with after visiting Sana.Sana was found by her two sisters in law’s whowere so concerned for her safety, that they went around to the house to check on her only to find her on the floor, covered in blood with a knife alongside her.Their initial reaction and observations are that Sana had killed herself.We hear the details of the initial 999 emergency call and start to understand more as to why Sana’s family were concerned about her welfare.We hear from the police officer who was in charge of the investigation, retired Detective Chief Superintendent Jane Antrobus.DCS Antrobus gives an insight into her investigation, why the case was initially treated as a suicide, and how after medical evidence from Dr Lumb, a Home Officer forensic pathologist, Sana’s death was instead considered as a homicide.DCS Antrobus gives us an understanding of the dynamics of this three-way love triangle and how Mindy entered into a Mut'ah with Sair, atemporary marriage which under the eyes of Allah allowed him to conduct his relationship with Mindy.The crime scene is described by the attending paramedics which feeds in to forensic expert Dr Woods evidence around blood pattern analysis and specifically where he believed Sana was during the furious attack.We hear why the paramedics considered that Sana was alive and took her to hospital in an attempt to save her life.In this episode we introduce David Wells, as he presents evidence from the police and prosecution, a role which he will adopt for future episodes.We also consider how Sana would have been capable of moving around the bedroom after she had received her wounds.TEASE – Next week·We hear more from Mindy’s family about what they knew about Mindy’s affair and the initial police investigation.·The police officer leading the murder investigation explains how they never established ownership of the knife.·The officer also explains how she believes Mindy was able to carry out this brutal attack without getting a drop of blood on her clothes or body.
Series 2, Episode 3 • What If It's Not Murder?
Season 2, Ep. 3
In this episode we hear more from the police officer who was in charge of the investigation. She describes the police investigation in detail and is challenged on some of her views and theories.With the help of solicitor David Wells, we explore some of the key evidence that the police relied on and look to challenge some of the assumptions made.We also explore in greater detail the injuries that Sana had to her body carefully considering each wound.We consider the view of the pathologist Dr Lumb, who stated that he couldnot exclude the possibility that the injuries were inflicted by one or more assailants in an attempt to mimic self-inflicted injuries.We question what this means and how he came up with this view.This episode also looks at what the police did in identifying and then ruling out other suspects, and Mindy’s mother gives an emotional account of the day that the police arrived at her door to arrest her daughter on suspicion of murder, and how she found out that her daughter had been charged.Careful consideration is given to the crime scene and the forensic evidence that was deduced from it by the blood pattern experts.TEASE – Next week·We consider any significance of the calls to Sana’s mobile phone·Further examine Mindy’s account, with that of the police’s case·Find very similar case in Italy
Series 2, Episode 4 • What If It's Not Murder?
Season 2, Ep. 4
By this stage of the investigation you should nowhave reached one of the following conclusions:1)That the evidence stacks up - as per the prosecution case and Mindy was correctly convicted, or2)That you have some concerns about the evidence, but not enough to feel that Mindy is the subject of a miscarriage of justice, or3)That you have serious concerns about the evidence that convicted Mindy and like her family and friends believe that Mindy’s conviction is unsafe.The police’s theory was that Mindy travelled to see Sana with the intention of killing her and making it look like suicide.In this episode we explore this theory to see if it stands up to scrutiny or if any other evidence exists that could cast it in serious doubt.We also consider the belief held by the police that Mindy attended the house and put on a full forensic suit without being noticed, that Sana was fully compliant whilst she did this and made no attempt to leave the bedroom.Mindy’s timeline and recollection of events also come under close scrutiny.We piece together her movements by using CCTV footage and mobile phone data to see if her account is accurate. We also consider how she behaved before going into the house to see Sana and immediately afterwards.Was Mindy telling the truth about how she left the house or does evidence exist that shows she must have left via the kitchen window?We hear vital evidence from Sana’s close friends and relatives about Sana’s state of mind, which shows just how low and unhappy she was.This episode highlights the failings of another case, an unsolved murder in which the pathologist‘s findings were clearly wrong.We also hear from an Italian forensic pathologist, Professor Di Vella, about a very similar case.TEASE next week·Challenge the police officer in charge of the case over some of her theories·Try to track down Sair·Hear more about the impact the case had and continues to have on the family.