The Trial

In this episode Caroline and Jack have an important update from the Old Bailey and will explain why we may be waiting for a verdict for a litle bit longer. We also have a chat with our podcast friend and media law expert David Banks to explain the problems of trials which run much longer than predicted.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production

In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the moment the Judge, Mark Lucraft KC sent the jury out to start their deliberations. After more than three months of hearing evidence the decisions are now up to them. Before he did this he reminded the jury of the key evidence in the case and what they need to consider during their deliberations. Legal expert David Banks also walks us through why this is now the most sensitive part of the trial process.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production

In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the Judge, Mark Lucraft KC. His job now, at the end of this trial, is to sum up this case, to remind the jury of the evidence they've heard. Today he reminded them what Constance Marten had told them as she spent several days in the witness box. He also referred to the evidence from the two pathologists who had told them Victoria's body was so decomposed they could not conclude how she died.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speech of Constance Marten's barrister, Francis Fitzgibbon KC, as he urged jurors to acquit her of the killing of her baby, Victoria. He told the Old Bailey 'the evidence isn't there' to convict the aristocrat and her partner Mark Gordon over Victoria's death and accused the prosecution of describing the baby as 'it' which, he said, was 'jarring and dehumanising'. The episode will also feature his suggestion that jurors should ignore the 'nasty bit of class prejudice' used by the prosecution to 'smear' her.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the defence closing speech made on behalf of Mark Gordon by John Femi-Ola KC. He describes Constance Marten as a 'lioness' protecting her cubs and said the death of Baby Victoria was a 'tragic accident'. The episode also features the end of prosecutor Tom Little KC's closing speech.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speech of the Prosecutor Tom Little KC. He told the jury Constance Marten had told “big fat lies” in her defence. Lies, he said, which “fell like confetti from her lips”. And he said despite Mark Gordon “grandstanding” to police about his “rights” he had refused to give evidence when the moment arrived. He said Victoria was caught in the middle of her parents toxic relationship, she was freezing cold, and she never stood a chance.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you more of the tense exchange between Professor Peter Fleming and Tom Little KC. The court has also been told that Constance Marten’s parents did hire private investigators to try to track her down, but they said this was not when she was on the run with baby Victoria.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production

Launching Friday 19th April, Vogue Williams hosts The Apple and The Tree, a brand new podcast where a parent and their adult child get to ask each other about the parts of their shared history they’ve always wanted to know more about, but never given themselves the time to do so. These are deep, intimate and revealing conversations that move through love, grief, shame, sexuality, religion, addiction, identity and so much more.‌Because these shows were recorded in our guest’s own homes, it’s like you’ve been invited in to sit alongside them and hear exactly how their lives have unfurled. At the end of each episode, Vogue and the guests unpack what’s been shared to discover if the apple really does fall far from the tree.Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you a key witness in the defence case of Constance Marten - an expert who investigates the unexpected death of babies. Prof Peter Fleming told the court he thought Constance Marten’s account was ‘extraordinarily consistent’ and cast doubt on how the prosecution say Baby Victoria died.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production