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Finding Out

Season 5, Ep. 6

There’s also another one of Tom’s clever lyrical twists in this one, in that first verse, when he sings “I must be looking over something” rather than “overlooking something”. A simple little bit of wordplay that subtly changes the impact of the line and changes the cadence of how it bounces along. Overall though, it’s definitely a hopeful, positive song and resolves in the bridge with the line “You have pulled me from this river of loneliness”


If you want to listen to the track before we dig in, check out the official video: https://youtu.be/IljIy5lP0R4


You can check out the live performance on the French show Houba Houba here: https://youtu.be/_cwgzXXwTyo


And finally, I found an immaculate lockdown cover by The Refugees, a Tom Petty tribute from the Bay Area. Give it a listen: https://youtu.be/lqGH6oOLLfg


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All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com/

Logo provided Ed Booth, who you can find here: https://edboothart.com/


The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.


A last very special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, Conversations with Tom Petty, this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research.

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