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Ten Questions - Walls (Circus or No 3)

Season 11, Ep. 1

Before we kick off the season proper, let's listen to which version of Walls my guests so far have picked! When I wrote the question, "Which do you prefer, Walls (Circus) or Walls (No. 3), I assumed everyone would pick that latter. It didn't turn out that way!"


Guests included, in order; Dallas Heliker, Jake Thistle, Gwen Jones, Janet Lovell, Jeff Slate, Megan Volpert, Corey Morrissette, Katie Moulton, Dan Spiess, Ivan Anderson, Tommy Edwin, Django Bayless, Dan Durkin, Matte Jaffe, Russell Mark, Mark Lindsey, Will Porteous, Doc Wiley, Chris Gillette, Pete Nester, Mary Beth Donnelly, Tim Bulman, Nora Hayward Olsen, Eric Senich, and me!


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The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.


A last very special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. And further thanks to Warren Zanes for his outstanding book "Petty, the Biography".


Producer: Kevin Brown

Executive Producer: Paul Roberts

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