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The Ted Hughes Society Podcast

Ted Hughes and Education 1: Di Beddow PhD

Season 3, Ep. 1

The first of a new series of podcasts looking at Ted Hughes In Education, starting with Dr. Di Beddow reflecting on her experiences as a PhD student at Queen Mary University London, researching and writing her thesis on 'The Cambridge of Ted Hughes and Sylvia Plath'.


Di Beddow was born in Cambridge and has spent much of her life living and working in or near Cambridge. She was educated at the Cambridgeshire County High School for Girls (which is now Long Road Sixth Form), Middlesex and Roehampton Universities and the University of Warwick.  She taught in Surrey, Essex and Cambridgeshire and rose to be Acting Head at both Hinchingbrooke School in Huntingdon and Ernulf Academy in St. Neots. Di’s passion in her own school days, during her teaching career and after has been the work of Sylvia Plath and Ted Hughes.


You can read more about Di's fascinating research into the importance of Cambridge for both Hughes and Plath in the following papers, which are available online:

'Poetry and Place: Sylvia Plath, Ted Hughes and Cambridge - The Cambridge of Ted Hughes and Sylvia Plath: https://christstreasures.blogspot.com/2021/12/poetry-and-place-sylvia-plath-ted.html


'Not the colleges, or such precincts: https://dibeddow.co.uk/ths-jul-19/


Also featured in this podcast are extracts from Chapter 1 of Reading Otherways (The Thimble Press, 1998), Lissa Paul's brilliant short book on critical reading, arising from her practical experience as a teacher and her reading in feminist theory .


If you would like to find out more about the Ted Hughes Society, you can visit the society’s website at thetedhugessociety.org, or you can email me, Mick Gowar, at membership@thetedhughessociety.org


The opening and closing music is from Beethoven's String Quartet No 14, opus 131, performed by the Orion String Quartet. (The extract is reproduced under Creative Commons licence IMSLP: Creative Commons Atribution Non-commercial No Derivative 3.0.) 

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    16:26|
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    18:47||Season 2, Ep. 3
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    19:29||Season 2, Ep. 2
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    20:28||Season 2, Ep. 1
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