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Peter Attia, MD On Becoming a Centenarian Decathlete, Metabolic Health & All Things Zone 2

Ep. 695

Healthspan extension may pique your interest. But it’s the obsession of today’s guest, a physician and engineer focused on the applied science of longevity to reframe and improve how we live while challenging all we’ve been previously taught about the interaction of health, human performance, and medicine.

Meet Peter Attia, MD.

Peter’s current practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (how long you live), while simultaneously improving healthspan (the quality of your life).

Today’s conversation, the first in what I hope to be many, focuses on the following specific topics:

  • Longevity. From a holistic perspective, discussing the physical, mental and emotional pillars required to erect the foundation for a long life well-lived, including how and why he is training (as all us of should be) for what he calls “The Centenarian Decathlon”.
  • Metabolic health. What this actually means, how to optimize it, and the role a Continuous Glucose Monitor (or CGM) can play in engaging you with your own metabolic health.
  • Strength, mobility and brain health.
  • Zone 2 training. What it is, how to do it, and why it’s important.

Peter is an utterly fascinating human with a clear grasp of science and how to effectively communicate it. I hope you enjoy this exchange as much as I was honored to host it.

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