The Ralph Moore Podcast


Interview: Joseph Mabe - Hope Chapel Keene, New Hampshire

Season 3, Ep. 50301

Meet my friend Joe Mabe. He's a fourth-generation church planter from my days in Hope Chapel Hermosa Beach.

We sent 20-year-old Jeff Fisher to plant what became Hope of the Valley Church with a bunch of his surfer buddies. Our youth guy, Dale Yancy, accompanied him as staff pastor/babysitter. A few years in Jeff and company sent Dale to plant a Hope Chapel in Nashua, NH. Dale later sent Tom Johnston to plant and he sent Joe to Keene.

The church is fruitful and its leadership, faithful. They enjoyed church multiplication success in their early days. In fact, the chain of churches planting churches reaches at least nine generations. In many cases, the planting pastor met Jesus in the congregation that would later launch him. Multiplication has slowed over time and Joe addresses that in a manner that will give you hope.

Beginning bivocationally, the church eventually demanded full time and the fruit shows that it was a worthy decision. You'll find Joe practical and down-to-earth. Enjoy!

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