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Interview: Dustin Anderson - Journey The Church, Camarillo CA (Part 2 of 2)

Season 3, Ep. 50303

In the second part of this interview, Dustin brings advice to others in "God's waiting room." He specifically addresses those who might not be in a situation as good as his. You may hope to plant a church, but your current church isn't warm to the idea.

Dustin and I get into the possibility of planting a church bivocationally while keeping your job in your home church.

Finally, we discuss avenues of permission, even when permission is withheld. You should find this creative and enlightening.

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John Harris-What Does He Know That You Don't? (1 of 2)

Season 3, Ep. 50309
What does John Harris know that you don’t?He’s grown a church from 2 people to 400 during Covid and on Facebook. But that’s not the most crucial part of this interview. Post-Church Christfollowers and “multimodal” church are.John left a career as a military chaplain to join the staff in a large California church. After more than a decade, he began noticing that most church dropouts come from among the 20 percent of super-committed Christ-followers. The doers and givers are leaving churches in significant numbers.So, in 2019 he departed his job as an executive pastor to launch a coaching ministry designed to help pastors keep their most influential members. Then Covid struck!Forced to move his business online, he never missed a beat. The coaching platform has grown in size and productivity but still left something to be explored. Seeking to understand better why key people leave the church, he decided to start an “unchurch” to reach them. He doesn’t call it that. I do. It presents as an “online Christian community.” Intent on avoiding the word, church, he began by reaching people who feel they just escaped one.Then there is the evangelism element. As people get excited about personal growth around the father-love of God, they talk about it. Evangelism happens without prodding. The story goes on. So you need to listen to it if you want to understand “multimodal church” or why I found myself coaching a church growth coach.You can learn about the coaching business at https://www.jharrischurchconsulting.com/ to check on the unchurch, you’ll need to take notes as he explains the path to observe what he’s doing in part 2 of this fascinating interview.