The Ralph Moore Podcast


Bob Mallord: Early Hope Chapel Planting in Venice, CA (Part 2 of 2)

Season 3, Ep. 50297

Bob Mallord joined the first Hope Chapel in its earliest days.

A natural leader, and

a bit of a rebel, he stood out as a person others were eager to follow.

However, he didn't see himself as a leader and struggled when I did. Our

friendship ran deep but he resisted the ICNU talks over and over.

Eventually, he grabbed

the reins after starting a Bible study in a very tough town, Venice,

California. But, we now faced denominational politics. Bob led a small study

that quickly mushroomed into a church, but that threatened another church that

had the backing of the denomination. After lots of twists and turns, the

denomination decided that they actually wanted two churches in the same town.

Problem was the supervisor was a bit of a legalist which Bob couldn't handle.

New leadership eventually brought Bob into the fold and

the church grew from meeting in a home to a congregation of more than 700


This is a hero-making story of an individual who has more to

offer than they can conceive. It's also the story of a man who is willing to

buck authority to cling to what he believes. If you're struggling with identity

issues, you'll find strength in Bob Mallord.

Part two of the podcast takes you on a journey of adventure,

evangelism, and other important issues as Bob explores life after pastoring a

successful church. Ever his own man, he left a thriving church to meet the

needs of his family, moving from California to Mississippi. Better buckle your

seatbelt for this one...

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