The Ralph Moore Podcast


Alex Absalom - Leaning Into the Naturally Supernatural - Part 2

Season 5, Ep. 50502

In this podcast, I got to interview one of my favorite people.


When I’m down or feeling cynical, I look to Alex Absalom for an uplift—sometimes, just reminding myself of his joyous spirit gifts gets me out of the doldrums. 


Having planted churches and rescued others in Britain and the United States, Alex leads a ministry called Dandelion Resources. Mixing practical tools with spiritual realities, he and his wife, Hannah, teach churches to enter into the supernatural side of our mission more freely.


The thought behind Dandelion Resources comes from dandelions being so fragile, beginning with a tiny seed floating in the air while becoming extremely pervasive.


The gospel and all its spiritual strength still come to us as tiny seeds moved by the breath of the Spirit.


In the podcast, Alex describes ministry with a Venn diagram or three overlapping circles. The circles are disciplemaking, staying focused on mission and being naturally supernatural. The problem that people like me (and perhaps you) face is that we are often strong on mission and disciplemaking but somewhat lacking in the natural supernatural.


In this post-Christian era, prayer and the supernatural side of ministry can plant those fragile seeds in even difficult soil.


For more connection with Alex or to invite him and/or Hannah to teach, you can reach him via

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Sergio Maul: Church in a Chick-fil-A (breaking boundaries, not wineskins)

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Jason Shepperd/Church Project - Update (Part 2)

Season 5, Ep. 50508
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