The Owen Jones Podcast

Is it possible to grow concrete? This was the claim of a right-wing shock jock interviewing Insulate Britain's Cameron Ford in a viral clip watched by millions. As the much demonised protest group receives its first positive coverage in the aftermath, Cameron joins us to face down the movement's critics: about why they're targeting motorways, whether he worries for activists' safety after enraged motorists attack them, why this form of protest is justified - and what future he fears is coming unless more people fight back.

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