The Owen Jones Podcast

We're told that human nature is hardwired to need authority and hierarchy, and that we're driven by selfishness and greed. But is that really true? In a new book by David Wengrow and the late great David Graeber - THE DAWN OF EVERYTHING - the standard narrative about human history is challenged. Wengrow explains why it's not true that as human society gets more complicated there's a need for more top down control - and what our history tells us about our future.

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