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The New Abnormal

Trump Has Completely Forgotten His Relationship With Mike Pence

Season 1, Ep. 452

This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy take issue with Trump’s latest comments surrounding Kamala Harris and Mike Pence. Plus! Journalist, historian and author Rick Perlstein joins us to tell us all about his recent piece for the American Prospect. Then, Dr. Jamil Zaki is here to tell us about their new book, “Hope for Cynics: The Surprising Science of Human Goodness.”


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