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Demand Avoidance, Trauma & CHaMs: What Neurodivergent Kids Are Really Facing
In this episode of the Neurodivergent Experience, hosts Jordan James and Simon Scott speak with Speaker and Advocate, Asher Jenner, who shares their journey of navigating childhood struggles, school bullying and the complexities of PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance), the impact of trauma on mental health, and the challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals navigating CHaMs, particularly in relation to eating disorders and rumination syndrome.
⚠️ Content Warning: Self-Harm and Suicide
This episode contains open and honest discussions around self-harm, suicidal thoughts, and mental health challenges. Listener discretion is strongly advised. If you or someone you know is struggling, please reach out to a mental health professional or contact a crisis support service in your area.
Here's what we cover in this episode
- We discuss the misconceptions surrounding PDA, the importance of tailored treatment approaches, and the emotional toll of navigating these experiences.
- The need for understanding and support for those with neurodivergent conditions, emphasizing the significance of lived experiences in shaping treatment and care.
- The therapeutic benefits of dance, and the role of stim toys in managing sensory needs.
- Asher Jenner shares insights on their journey, the significance of finding safe ways to express emotions, and the impact of sharing personal stories to help others.
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