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Double Duty: Building your trajectory from the Writer's Room
On this episode, host Shirley Vernae Williams talks with twin powerhouses JaSheika and JaNeika James. These television writers and producers talk about how you should “never operate from the place of the level that you’re at.” They give a wealth of information as they talk about each step of rising through the ranks in a writer's room, writing on shows like 'Desperate Housewives' and 'Dexter' to being Supervising Producers on 'Empire' and Co-Executive Producers on HBO Max’s 'Gossip Girl'. They also share the process of how they construct the pitches for their various projects as well as their book "Living Double: How Identical Twins Unlocked the Door to Success in Hollywood".
Episode Credits
Shirley Vernae Williams
Host/Showrunner
@ShirleyVernae
Tre Simms
Associate Producer
@drowningthoughtmedia
Deven Ladson
Editor
@Deven.Alan
Dankwa Brooks
Writer
@NotherBrother
Music Provided By
@iambrandonjhon
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