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Live from the Khia Asylum! | A History of THE VIEW
Nineties television; a hellscape of trashy talk shows. Maury. Jerry. Sally. Ricki. But only one show remains on the airwaves to this day, arguably stronger now than it’s ever been: THE VIEW.
In this episode, Jared and Abe explore the origins of TV’s last highly-rated daytime talk show. What made THE VIEW different from its competitors? Who still watches it and why? How does THE VIEW keep booking all these political guests? And why is Meaghan McCain the way she is? Tangents include, but are not limited to, Sean Connery, the difference between a shark and a sunfish, and Jared’s coaching advice to the Boston Celtics.
SOURCES
- https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/magazine/the-view-politics-tv.html
- https://www.npr.org/2021/12/07/1062175139/the-view-is-cultural-and-political-canon
- https://ew.com/tv/view-hosts-why-they-left/
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xht0HcPryWA
- Talking Trash: The Cultural Politics of Daytime TV Talk Shows by Julie Manga
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d62JBdqsG94&t=8s
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIDDKKjejbU
- Dirty Talk: When Daytime Talk Shows Ruled TV
- https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/barbara-walters?chapter=4&clip=125185&full=true#full-interview
THAT'S HISTORY, BABE! is hosted by Abe Merker and Jared Tetreau. This episode was produced by Jared Tetreau, Abe Merker, and Claudia Chiossone. Research Assistance by Madison Albertson. Music by Kinneret. Series Artwork by Sid Lugo. Intro Animations by Gemma Hill.
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4. Gayliens are here and they're probing | Alien Encounters
57:31||Ep. 4Roswell. Hoax photos. Desert people. Racist and factually incorrect History Channel shows. What do all of these things have in common? Aliens.In this episode, Jared and Abe uncover the truth about the history of alien abductions, tackling tough questions such as: Where did this phenomenon come from? What is the first recorded alien abduction? What’s up with the probing? And most importantly, what the hell was going on in New Hampshire? Tangents include, but are not limited to, barefoot shoes, the jump scare from the movie E.T., and the medieval mentally ill.This episode was produced by Jared Tetreau, Abe Merker, and Claudia Chiossone, and edited by Jared Tetreau. Music by Kinneret, intro animation by Gemma Hill, research assistance by Madison Albertson, and show artwork by Niall Lowrie.SOURCESAbduction, Surgery, and Madness: An Account of a Little Red Man in Thomas Walsingham's Chronica Maiora They Know Us Better Than We Know Ourselves: The History and Politics of Alien Abduction (2007) by Bridget BrownAfter the Flying Saucers Came: A Global History of the UFO Phenomenon by Greg EghigianIndeed They Have Invaded. Look Around.: POPULAR CULTURE New York Times (Online) New York Times Company. Jun 15, 1997 by Phil Patton“When Did Alien Sightings Turn into Alien Abductions?”(2017) By Greg EghigianCHAPTERS00:00 - Introduction01:40 - My Annals06:14 - The Five Ws09:42 - An interstellar overview10:59 - Thomas Walsingham and “The Chronica Maiora” 16:32 - Biblical Aliens18:42 - Is there life on Mars?? Percival Lowell says yes. 21:09 - Aliens invade the public consciousness. 25:52 - Alien conspiracies and the psychology of believers in aliens. 34:28 - George Adamski was ON one. 40:46 - Alien abductions!45:05 - New Age wellness goop aliens48:52 - lololol aliens might be real 56:08 - Follow us on socials!
3. A Cuban orphan does Florida math! | The Election of 2000
54:18||Ep. 3The year 2000. A new millennium and, for America, a new president. But who will the people choose?? Twenty-six years later, we still don’t know. In this episode, Jared and Abe remove their glasses in disbelief as the race between George Bush and Al Gore goes down to the wire in Florida. Recounts. Hanging chads. The Miami Sound Machine. The only thing at stake is the United States of America. Tangents include, but are not limited to, giving out your number at karaoke, fidget rings, bath salts, and which member of the Bush cabinet you’d smoke a blunt with. This episode was produced by Jared Tetreau, Abe Merker, and Claudia Chiossone, and edited by Jared Tetreau. Research assistance by Madison Albertson. Original music by Kinneret. Intro animation and artwork by Gemma Hill and Niall Lowrie. SOURCES537 VOTES, HBO Documentary https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/butterfly-did-it-aberrant-vote-buchanan-palm-beach-county-florida https://web.archive.org/web/20100731000517/http://www.pbs.org/newshour/media/election2000/election_night.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/10/election.president.02/ https://guides.law.stanford.edu/c.php?g=991108&p=7170216 https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~goguen/courses/275f00/abc-chads.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wufOcpTH0HU&list=PLmZWNw4ieD05KKWV7PbErdHrXS1yQu8hM&index=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWETjjTniWo&list=PLmZWNw4ieD05KKWV7PbErdHrXS1yQu8hM&index=5 https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020430.html https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2000-republican-party-platform CHAPTERS00:00 - Intro 03:47 - My Annals06:50 - The Five W’s 08:38 - The Year 200010:41 - Clinton/Gore 12:44 - George W. Bush and Compassionate Conservatism 18:46 - Al Gore’s “Prosperity and Progress” 23:50 - Election Night31:18 - Florida Florida Florida does a recount recount recount 34:46 - Elian Gonzalez39:11 - Taking it to the courts! 41:56 - Brooks Brothers Riot44:55 - Surprise! We all lose! 53:40 - Follow us on socials!
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1. Please sir, can I have some more Skrillex? | Victorian Childhood
53:17||Ep. 1We’ve all seen the memes – Skrillex, 4Loko, GTA, and electric scooters all have the potential to kill a Victorian child. In the modern popular imagination, Victorian children are frail, easily offendable, and prone to overstimulation. But was this really the case?In this episode, Abe and Jared take a journey through Victorian England to investigate the reality of what it was like to be a child from the dredges of poverty to the upper echelons. So put on your page boy hats and fingerless gloves, tuck in to your most nutritious gruel, and get ready to dive into some of the most unvaccinated, brutal working conditions of the 19th century! SOURCES Chapter 1 of The Pragmatic Ideal: Mary Field Parton and the Pursuit of a Progressive Society by Mark Douglas McGarvie - “A Victorian Childhood in Defense of Tradition, 1878-1896”BBC Four documentary The Children Who Built Victorian Britain (2011) Victorian Childhoods by Ginger S. Frost (2008) - Introductionhttps://www.amdigital.co.uk/insights/blog/byron-and-hobhouse-in-mediterranean-europeChildren’s Fantasy Literature: An Introduction by Michael Levy and Farah Mendelsohn (2016) “Classed Childhood in Arthur Morrison’s A Child of the Jago and Victorian Slum Fiction” by S. Brooke Cameron, from Critical Essays on Arthur Morrison and the East End, edited by Diana Maltz (2022) “The Victorian Child, c. 1837-1901” by Marah Gubar https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/hszufz/what_modern_day_thing_do_you_think_would_kill_a/.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction02:12 - My Annals05:44 - Victorian England07:44 - Kids in Victorian England13:22 - Victorian Class19:34 - Death and Religion22:23 - Child Labor and Working Class Kids33:22 - Jobs for Kids!37:55 - Public Opinion40:16 - Political Reactions44:53 - Illness, Injury, and Disability47:47 - Why you should respect the Victorian street urchin.51:41 - Follow us on socials!!