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  • 144. E144 The Fifth Court - Mr Justice Brian Cregan, Judge of the High Court | Parnell, leadership, and the law

    47:35||Season 1, Ep. 144
    Episode 144 – Mr Justice Brian Cregan, Judge of the High Court | Parnell, leadership, and the lawIn this very special episode of The Fifth Court, hosts Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL are joined by Mr Justice Brian Cregan, Judge of the High Court, to discuss his book Parnell: A Novel and the legal, political, and historical legacy of Charles Stewart Parnell.Drawing on extensive original research, Mr Justice Cregan explores Parnell’s emergence as a political leader, his use of parliamentary obstruction, and the legal dramas that shaped his career — including the Special Commission and the O’Shea divorce proceedings.The discussion also addresses a striking historical assessment: whether Parnell’s political impact surpassed that of Daniel O’Connell, and what this means for how Irish history is understood.The episode includes detailed analysis of landmark legal moments, including the cross-examination of Richard Pigott — widely regarded as one of the most significant in legal history.Decisis Case Notes With thanks to Charlton Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners, sponsors of the Decisis law reports segment.This week’s cases include:Pizzarchi v Kepak Cork Unlimited Company – renewal of a lapsed personal injury summons refused due to deliberate inactionDPP v Murray – Court of Appeal upholds cumulative sentence for harassment of legal professionals and victimEastwood v Richards – presumption of revocation does not arise where will remained in solicitor’s custodyKey Timestamps00:05:54 – Introduction to Mr Justice Brian Cregan00:23:05 – Parliamentary obstruction and the mechanics of power00:31:42 – The Pigott cross-examination and the Special Commission00:37:20 – The O’Shea divorce proceedings and political consequences00:42:56 – Parnell and O’Connell compared 

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  • 143. E143 The Fifth Court - Máirín de Búrca, once more in front of the courts

    53:59||Season 1, Ep. 143
    Máirín De Búrca is in front of the courts again | The Fifth CourtThere are some names that belong in the footnotes of Irish history. Máirín De Búrca belongs in the headlines.In this very special episode of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard and Mark Tottenham visit Máirín at home to talk about a life that took her from Chicago and Newbridge to housing protests, anti-apartheid activism, women’s liberation, prison, and one of the most important constitutional cases of the 1970s.Yes, Máirín De Búrca is in front of the courts again.This time she faces The Fifth Court where she tells the story behind the famous De Búrca and Anderson case, the challenge that exposed the absurdity of all-male, property-owning juries and helped change Irish law for good.This is a warm, funny, vivid and deeply important conversation about activism, law, protest, courage and a very different Ireland.Also in this episode, in the Decisis case round-up, Mark and Peter discuss three striking recent decisions: Kelly v An Bord Pleanála, where approval for a bus stop outside a home was quashed over privacy and safety concerns; Q v O, an interim access case involving a non-parent in a same-sex family despite the absence of a professional report on the child’s wishes; and In Re Tusker Property Holdings, where reckless and fraudulent trading led to personal liability, disqualification and costs orders.The Decisis section is proudly sponsored by Charlton Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners of George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire, specialists in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.
  • 142. E142 The Fifth Court - Garry O'Gorman, The Barrister Who Quit Law To Handicap Racehorses

    36:05||Season 1, Ep. 142
    The Barrister Who Quit Law To Handicap RacehorsesWhat kind of person leaves the Law Library… and ends up becoming one of the most quietly powerful men in Irish racing?Garry O’Gorman, that’s who.ON Episode 142 of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL meet the former barrister who swapped devilling and district courts for parade rings, pedigrees, handicap marks and the dark arts of Irish flat racing.This is law with a glorious smell of turf, horse sweat and mild institutional mischief.Garry explains:how he went from Trinity, King’s Inns and the Law Library into racingwhat a handicapper actually doeshow trainers try to outfox the systemwhy only one horse can win, but 11 people can still blame the handicapperhow Ireland became a global bloodstock superpowerwhy racehorses, judges, barristers and forum shopping all belong in the same conversationThere is also talk of Phoenix Park Racecourse, Cheltenham, black type, appeals, legal gossip, and the delicious reality that in racing, some people are scandalised by a coup while secretly admiring it.This is not one of your solemn legal episodes.This is The Fifth Court going full gallop.DecisisThe Decisis case notes on this week’s episode are supported by Charlton Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners, George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire.
  • 141. E141 The Fifth Court - Mr Justice David Nolan - Advocacy, Independence and the Modern Bar

    39:44||Season 1, Ep. 141
    Advocacy, Independence and the Modern Bar — Mr. Justice David Nolan | The Fifth Court EP 141On Episode 141 of The Fifth Court, hosts Mark Tottenham BL and Peter Leonard BL are honoured to be joined by Mr. Justice David Nolan of the High Court.A former Chair of the Bar Council and long-standing advocate, Mr. Justice Nolan reflects on:• The evolution of advocacy in Irish courts• The importance of structured submissions• The independence of the Bar• International advocacy training and the Keble College model• The transition from advocate to judgeThis episode’s case review is supported by Charlton Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners, specialists in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.Cases discussed:DPP v Canavan — Common design and murder conviction appeal GG v HI — Maintenance arrears and post-divorce property orders Probate challenge (Court of Appeal) — Standing in will disputes
  • 140. E140 The Fifth Court - Eavanna FitzGerald - Founder of The Expert Witness Site

    33:54||Season 1, Ep. 140
    Expert evidence under pressure – Eavanna FitzGerald on changing court culture | Episode 140On Episode 140 of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL examine a quiet but significant shift in Irish litigation: expert witnesses are now under real judicial scrutiny.Eavanna FitzGerald joins the show to explain why the traditional word-of-mouth system for sourcing experts is failing practitioners, and how courts are increasingly testing expert independence, competence and compliance with duties.The episode also covers three Decisis.ie cases:• Gorman v Lynch – proprietary / promissory estoppel claim against an estate dismissed as time-barred • Minister for Justice v Balgova – European Arrest Warrant and strict approach to equivalence • Pepper Finance DAC v O’Reilly – possession proceedings remitted due to insufficient proof of debt transferSponsored by Charlton Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners. Follow, subscribe and share.
  • 139. E139 The Fifth Court - Tom Flynn SC, Planning judicial reviews, costs caps and access to justice

    37:48||Season 1, Ep. 139
    Episode 139 | Tom Flynn SC on planning judicial reviews, costs caps and access to justiceIn Episode 139 of The Fifth Court, hosts Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL are joined by Tom Flynn SC, a leading planning and environmental law practitioner.The discussion examines the State’s proposal to cap recoverable legal costs in planning judicial reviews, the policy rationale behind the measures, and the potential consequences for access to justice, equality of arms and Ireland’s obligations under the Aarhus Convention.Key themesJudicial review and the reality behind infrastructure delay claimsProposed scale fees and their practical impact on applicantsEnvironmental litigation, expert evidence and cost recoveryFairness, constitutional rights and public law accountabilityDecisis.ie – Case law discussed (with thanks to section sponsor Charlton Solicitors):Doyle v Buckley – payment out of client funds following prolonged costs disputesCriminal Assets Bureau v Humphreys – freezing orders where funds are partly taintedCriminal Assets Bureau v X, Y and Z – unlawful access to family law records and consequences for proceeds-of-crime applicationsAlsoNominations are now open for the Irish Law Awards, closing 20 March 2026.Listen and Subscribe on all podcast platforms.
  • 138. E138 The Fifth Court - Mary McAleese, former Uachtarán na hÉireann

    45:33||Season 1, Ep. 138
    Episode 138 – Mary McAleese on the Rule of Law, Courage & DemocracyFormer President of Ireland Mary McAleese joins our hosts of The Fifth Court, Mark Tottenham BL and Peter Leonard BL, for a wide-ranging and deeply thoughtful conversation on the rule of law, human rights, judicial independence and democratic backsliding — drawing on her personal experience as a lawyer, academic and Head of State.Recorded at a special Ireland Rule of Law International event in the Law Society, this episode reflects on:growing up during the Troublesthe courage of lawyers and judges who upheld the rule of law at personal riskthe Good Friday Agreement and constitutional changethreats to democracy and judicial independence todayA compelling, humane and at times deeply moving discussion.The episode also includes new cases from the Decisis.ie casebook and these cases are brought to you with thanks to our sponsor, Charltons Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners, George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire — specialists in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.If you value thoughtful legal discussion, please subscribe, share this episode, and recommend it to a colleague.