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It's Spring Break and Jane and I are taking the week off along with our kids. This week we're bringing you a rerun of Episode 8 from Season 2 - Your Call Is Important To Us. We love caller episodes, so please continue to call or write! We listen, and much of your subject manner and personal experience finds it way to the show, if not turning into a dedicated episode, which has also happened plenty of time!
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Multi-Multi-Level-Marketing (2026)
40:14|How do you rebuild your life after 13 years and 6 companies worth of Multi Level Marketing indoctrination? The Dream (we're back!) host Jane Marie talks to former MLM devotee and current anti MLM crusader, Erin Bies, about the state of the MLM industry and the work Erin is now doing to take it down. And you might just learn a little something about exogenous ketones along the way....Find out more about the work Erin is doing:https://www.erinbies.com/TikTok: @erinbiesIG: @therealbiestmodewww.youtube.com/@ErinBies
Train Dreams
50:34|In which Jane takes a train cross-country and meets an original Burning Man Burner. We were about to call this episode "Ocean Gump." Listen to understand why.
Dear Jane Marie with Ramou Sarr
25:48|Writer and dear friend, Ramou Sarr, joins Jane on the couch. Caller #1 is feeling bleak about the future of her career. Caller #2 is a 5th grader who can't stop leaving all of her sweatshirts and lunchboxes at school. Caller #3 is looking for advice about how to split bills with their (newly moved in) partner.Follow Ramou in Instagram
Think And Grow Duped (2026)
31:24|Napoleon Hill, ever heard of him? He wrote "Think and Grow Rich," one of the best-selling self-help handbooks of all time. His fans include Tony Robbins and life coaches of all stripes. But Napoleon Hill was not a genius of self-help. He was a scam artist who never practiced what he preached. Journalist Matt Novak tells Jane what he’s found (and what he hasn’t) about one of the biggest architects of modern coaching.
Diagnosis: Fat
38:29|This week we hear from sociologist and researcher Amanda Levitt about how fat people are treated at their doctor's offices. She's found that many doctor's center losing weight no matter what ailment they're addressing and this leaves many patients frustrated and without treatment.You can follow Amanda and her work here.
Die Already
40:35|Did you hear how RFK Jr. just bragged about closing down "thousands" of hospice organizations? We sit down with Dream regular and death coach Megan Carmichael to get to the bottom of why this announcement feels so wrong.
Computer Love
52:53|Author Bridget Todd discusses her research on human/AI relationships. Her new audiobook "Love At First Prompt" is a fascinating look into how we communicate with these machines and whether it's good for us. Find the audiobook and much more about her work here.
The Small Bow: God Can’t Help You Until You Get Out of the Way
53:23|Today we bring you another of our favorite podcasts which you can find right here: The Small Bow. Queen Conny Caruso is 96 years old and not afraid to die. She gets angry, she holds onto grudges and she has no tolerance for liars. She’s also got 18 virtual reality boyfriends and killer style. She’s been sober for 48 years and while she hasn’t always loved AA, she credits it with changing her relationship with God. This is NOT a conversation about aging gracefully. It’s a conversation about getting older and accepting that even at 96, you may still yell at someone at the grocery store.You can watch this episode of the show on YouTube and find more of The Small Bow on their website.
Hyperfixed: Rooting Out Racists
35:01|Today we'd like to share with you a wonderful episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Hyperfixed. Host Alex Goldman chats with an anonymous hacker who took down a white supremacist dating site. LINKS:Martha Root's Social MediaMartha Root's Chaos Communication Congress PresentationMartha's Website, OK StupidGet tickets for the Hyperfixed live show!