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Everyone should read Lisa Yin Han's Deepwater Alchemy! It's a stunningly well written book about how we come to value the ocean through various extractive mediations. Recorded Sept 27, 2024. Released Oct 14, 2024.
Deepwater Alchemy: Extractive Mediation and the Taming of the Seafloor
How underwater mediation has transformed deep-sea spaces into resource-rich frontiers
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