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Fleur Woods - Finding your artistic voice
In this episode I talk to New Zealand artist Fleur Woods about her artistic voice. We discuss her journey and influences, and the all the experimentation it took to refine and continually progress it. We explored the ideas that reoccur in her work and life such as a deep connection to nature. We chat about how teaching and collaborating are integral to her practice, as they allow her to connect with others and continuously experiment and evolve. I love how Fleur embraces the idea that creativity is a force for well-being and encourages others to explore their genuine interests.
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58. Richelle Byers & Liz Fraser of Gallery De Novo talk about Community & Connection
40:23||Season 5, Ep. 58In this episode, I sit down with Richelle Byers & Liz Fraser from Gallery De Novo in Dunedin. Richelle and Liz reflect on how a gallery space can create community and connection when it’s open, conversational, and unintimidating.We chat about the idea of community and connection and how that can be built and shared through a commercial gallery—what they look for in artists, how relationships form between artists, gallerists and collectors, and how taste, instinct and storytelling shape the work they choose to represent. We talk about what it means to truly “fall” for an artwork, how personal and emotional that process can be for collectors. There’s also reflection on what it means to see work in the flesh — why scale, texture, and presence can’t always be captured on a screen — and how that in-person experience helps galleries stay grounded in community.You can find Gallery De Novo here and here on instagram - Their 20th anniversary show opens on the 28th &29th of June so go along and congratulate them if you can!Mentioned in this episode:- Ana Teafilo- Lee Byford-Daynes- Ewan McDougal- Jasmine Middlebrook- Maria Kemp- John Badcock- Marilyn WebbYou can find the podcast hereThanks so much for listening! Feel free to rate, review & share if you enjoyed it, this helps other people find the show57. Lissy and Rudi Robinson-Cole- On the Power of Art
50:16||Season 5, Ep. 57n this episode, we dive into the powerful intersection of art, culture, and community with Lissy and Rudi Robinson-Cole, the duo behind Wharenui Harikoa. From creating spaces that encourage introspection and connection, to collaborating across cultures, Lissy and Rudi share the deeply personal and healing process behind this transformative art installation. We explore the impact of Wharenui Harikoa as a vessel for emotional release, where visitors share their most intimate wishes—a practice that calls to mind the ancient Matariki rituals of letting go and releasing energy into the universe.We also talk about the ongoing evolution of their work, including a new vision for future Wharenui installations and their upcoming projects, like an international exhibition at the De Young Museum in San Francisco. The conversation also touches on the importance of community involvement and the meditative power of crochet, which is central to their practice.This episode is a deep exploration of art’s ability to create bridges of understanding, foster dialogue, and invite both the artist and viewer into spaces of healing and connection.You can Buy a Ball & support to Lissy & Rudi hereYou can find their website here: and their instagram here:Lissy & Rudi Have a Show on from June 12 - July 5 with Time Melville Gallery in Auckland, Whiria Ngā Kanorau – Weave the Many Colours/Seeds You can find the podcast hereThanks so much for listening! Feel free to rate, review & share if you enjoyed it, this helps other people find the show56. Rita Stella- Navigating the Emerging Art World
51:49||Season 5, Ep. 56In this episode, I chat with Melbourne-based artist Rita Stella about navigating the complexities of the emerging artist. We talk about how Rita found gallery representation through a local art prize, why she’s cautious about prints and commissions, and the value of trusting her own pace—even when the art world seems to demand more, faster. We cover the realities of finding time for art around parenting and work, learning to define success on your own terms, and how to tune out the noise and just make what you want to make.Rita shares what it was like to leave a stable career and commit to painting, and why she’s deliberately resisted pressure to scale her art business too quickly. We also chat about pricing work, and the importance of creative community.You can find Rita herePeople mentioned:Art to ArtDavid Hamilton from Melbourne Art ClassMedeline Simson episodeWentworth Gallery episode on PricingEbony TaylorYou can find the podcast hereThanks so much for listening! Feel free to rate, review & share if you enjoyed it, this helps other people find the show55. Carrie Scott- The Realities of Being an Emerging Artist
44:00||Season 5, Ep. 55In this episode, Carrie Scott, an art dealer, shares practical advice for emerging artists. She stresses the importance of tracking sales, clients, and works right from the start, which helps when approaching galleries down the line. Carrie also advises artists to price their work carefully and avoid pricing themselves out of their market.Carrie talks about the need for persistence in the art world, emphasising that success doesn’t happen overnight. She also highlights the importance of knowing when and how to approach galleries.The conversation also touches on the complexities of social media for artists. Carrie acknowledges its usefulness in discovering and connecting with audiences but points out that it requires a significant amount of effort and can push artists out of their comfort zones. This is a conversation about how patience plays a bigger role than most people expect, and how underneath the labels and everything else, it's about doing the work and not rushing the process.You can find Carrie Scott HereYou can find the Seen membership hereYou can find the Seen Podcast here on apple podcasts or here on spotifyYou can find the podcast hereThanks so much for listening! Feel free to rate, review & share if you enjoyed it, this helps other people find the showDiscussed in the episode:AirtableYou can find Carrie’s interview with Lubaina Hamid hereMentioned in the episode:Amy SheraldCelia Martine PickeringLindsay Young Lubaina Himid CJ HendryChris Proctor Ryan Gander54. Studio Session with Fleur Woods, Fleur Wickes & Julie Battisti
01:03:04||Ep. 54In this episode Fleur Wickes and Fleur Woods join me for a casual studio session. We discuss the unique challenges and costs associated with pursuing a career in the arts, such as the financial pressure of maintaining studio spaces, the impact of life changes on creative work, and the constant need to balance personal and professional boundaries. We chat about the value of perseverance, the importance of adaptability, and the various ways we have tailored and changed practices to fit our evolving lives.You can find Fleur Woods website here, previous epsiodes with Fleur Woods here & hereAnd Fleur Wickes website here, previous episodes with Fleur Wickes here and here.You can find the podcast here Thanks so much for listening! Feel free to rate, review & share if you enjoyed it, this helps other people find the showRecommendations from this weekThe Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick RubinUpstream by Mary OliverPoker Face (TV series)The Quilters (Netflix documentary)The Seen Podcast with Carrie Scott Have You Seen? Annabel MerrettCindy Rizza’s new show Taking Care at Galerie Mokum53. Sarah Lubcke - Portraiture
48:54||Season 5, Ep. 53In this episode, Sarah Lubcke discusses her journey into portraiture. Sarah reflects on the many stages of her portrait journey: learning anatomy and likeness, finding a supportive community of portrait artists, and developing an eye not just for faces and skin tones, but for the emotional life inside each image. She also opens up about the challenges of painting backgrounds—and how she’s learning to consider the whole composition, not just the figure.Sarah also touches on the importance of building a supportive network and finding the right mentors who can help you progress. Sarah talks about the importance of feedback in her artistic growth, discussing how connecting with trusted peers helps refine her work and overcome challenges. She also opens up about the value of self-belief and perseverance, especially during tough times when the work isn’t going as planned. You can find Sarah Lubcke’s website here and on Instagram hereYou can find the podcast hereThanks so much for listening! Feel free to rate, review & share if you enjoyed it, this helps other people find the showPrevious conversations with Kylie King-Hazel and Penelope BoydRomance Was BornTeresa Barnard David KassanShana LevensonChroma Brush Cleaner ( I think I called it Chromacryl, no idea why..)Georgia Loring52. Sarah Jane Moon - Portraiture
53:30||Season 5, Ep. 52In this episode I interview Sarah Jane Moon, a UK-based painter originally from New Zealand. Sarah Jane's work explores themes of identity, gender, and connection to place, and she is known for her bold use of colour and dynamic compositions. We discuss her journey to becoming a full-time painter, her studies at Heatherley portraiture school, and her experiences working in various places including New Zealand, Japan, and London. The conversation delves into Sarah Jane's process, the challenges and rewards of portraiture, such as balancing visual style with capturing a likeness. We also touch on the practicalities and emotional aspects of creating commissioned portraits, as well as Sarah Jane's thoughts on self-portraits and the influence of her physical painting environment on her work. We also discuss the importance of developing a unique style and the impact of personal connection and narrative in portraiture.You can find Sarah Jane here:Sarah Jane’s Website Mentioned in this episode:Heatherley’s School of Fine ArtDr. RonksTom CroftYou can find the podcast hereThanks so much for listening! Feel free to rate, review & share if you enjoyed it, this helps other people find the show51. Petrina Jose - Creative Branding
40:44||Season 5, Ep. 51In this episode of The Creative Kind, I chat to artist and graphic designer Petrina Jose to discuss the importance of brand identity for artists. Petrina emphasises the personal and evolving nature of an artist's brand identity and explores the challenges of branding personal art, the role of consistency in brand elements like colour and fonts, and practical tips for artists starting out. We also discuss the balance between authentic self-representation and maintaining professional cohesion, and the impact of social media presence on brand identity.You can find Petrina Jose here , her website here and her Branding & Design studio ‘Hearts & Eyes’ here and it's website hereYou can find the podcast hereThanks so much for listening! Feel free to rate, review & share if you enjoyed it, this helps other people find the show50. Pip Brett from Jumbled on Brand Identity
53:38||Season 5, Ep. 50In this episode of 'The Creative Kind', Pip Brett from Jumbled shares her insights on developing a strong and authentic brand identity. Pip discusses her journey from starting a clothing store called Igloo 18 years ago to evolving into the multifaceted brand Jumbled, which includes an art, fashion, and interior store, business retreats, and a new holiday home, Sona Molong. She emphasises the importance of staying true to oneself and one's passions, rather than trying to please everyone. Pip touches on the challenges and benefits of managing multiple brands, the significance of social media in connecting with the audience, and the evolution of her brand over time. She firmly believes in the power of authenticity and how it helps in building a loyal community and offers practical advice to artists on balancing personal expression and professional branding.Find Jumbled here and on instagram hereFind Sona Molong hereFind Jumbled loves fashion hereArtists mentioned:Whitney Spicer Annie EveringhamLottie Rae You can find the podcast hereThanks so much for listening! Feel free to rate, review & share if you enjoyed it, this helps other people find the show